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[Zangi]

You've died before, right after getting delivered via box right? 
Basically the game autosaves when you enter an outpost area and when you leave an outpost area.  But, it doesn't autosave when you UPS yourself over to another base.  So basically, if you had done anything inbetween entering the outpost and getting shipped... then die/restart at the delivery point/base, you'll lose all that progress, unless you manage to leave the delivery outpost/trigger an autosave on that end.

[Cthulhu]

Do delivery points start you out inside the box when you exit?

That box-dive is OP.  Twitch around so they notice you, then rotate towards grass or cover and dive out.  Leave the area while they try to figure out what's up with this fuckin box.  Works every time.

Just finished the mission where you get the water gun.  That last stretch is really intense.  Also the cutscene at the end.  Holy shit, no wonder big boss turns out to be the bad guy, he's fucking crazy.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Big Boss Did Nothing Wrong, he just wants to help. ;-;

[Greenbane]

Careful if you're getting closer to spoiler territory, guys.

[Rolan7]

Thanks but no, I was only up to main-mission 5 or so.
I am jonesing to try again, but I should at least wait for Steam to reply to my "delete my Steam Cloud data" request.  Would be my own fault if I did get it working, then they cleared my progress by my own request...
Fortunately I have other stuff to do today, trying to wait till next weekend 

[Greenbane]

As far as I know, the save data of Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain coexist in the 311340 folder.

I'm periodically backing up, and have disabled cloud saves for TPP. Just in case.

[Cthulhu]

Big Boss Did Nothing Wrong, he just wants to help. ;-;

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The fact that he didn't see anything abnormal with rescuing some child soldiers and promptly training them to be mercs is well into "been an animal so long I forgot how to be human" territory.

I''m also very excite for Battle Gear.  In absence of any other indications (NO SPOILERS) I'm going to assume battle gear becomes playable at some point.

Also wondering exactly how the FOB thing will come into play, like what the in-universe explanation for it will be.  I'm going to assume that a whole flock of copycat outer heavens start cropping up as Huey's tech becomes more prevalent, completing the metal-gears-as-a-metaphor-for-nuclear-proliferation thing.  Again, no spoilers.  Mysteries on mysteries though.

My favorite moment in the game so far was when the BUrning Man attacked and I was like "Oh!  This must be why the children gave me a water gun to save their friend!"

[Rolan7]

As far as I know, the save data of Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain coexist in the 311340 folder.

I'm periodically backing up, and have disabled cloud saves for TPP. Just in case.

You might be right, but Ground Zeroes (I don't even know what it IS) does have its own userdata folder.  I don't have the number handy but you can find it with last-modified.  I've been clearing it too just in case.

I'm pretty sure I did clear the data successfully, which gets it to prompt for brightness and language.  But then it tries to save, and fails again.  Same screwy error message.
I have it uninstalled right now, maybe it's leaving something in the common directory for me to clear.  Or I can download someone else's savedata as a test.  I'll have to check all that later though.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Big Boss Did Nothing Wrong, he just wants to help. ;-;

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The fact that he didn't see anything abnormal with rescuing some child soldiers and promptly training them to be mercs is well into "been an animal so long I forgot how to be human" territory.

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Look a little closer, they aren't being trained, just housed on Big Boss' Hair Club For Soldiers ("They'll be housed separately from the rest of us, not counted as staff".). And there's some truth to what both BB and Kaz say, they're war orphans or as good as ones, and central African to boot. Nobody else will ever really give a shit about them. For those kids, the only possible futures are death, hell, or....Outer Heaven.

Maybe Big Boss isn't the best role model or anything, but he hasn't really been disproven on the central axiom of Outer Heaven, and that's that as long as the world continues as is, there will never really be anything for kids like that, or for anybody else who follows him. Why do you think all these fuckers by and large immediately defect to Diamond Dogs after being literally kidnapped, not to mention the constant flood of volunteers? It's because they finally have the chance to hold their own power, and to fight for themselves instead for some wine-sipping assholes in Moscow or Washington who have never lost anything.

Big Boss is not just a legend because he's the world's greatest solider, hell, he's not. He's only A++ and the scale goes a bit beyond that, while in story terms he's well past soldiering age even without the decade of coma. He's a legend because he managed to make something outside the bounds of the normal world for the people it rejects, and even after getting crushed those who live on the battlefield remember it. That is what Outer Heaven really is.

[Zangi]

Big Boss Did Nothing Wrong, he just wants to help. ;-;

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The fact that he didn't see anything abnormal with rescuing some child soldiers and promptly training them to be mercs is well into "been an animal so long I forgot how to be human" territory.

I''m also very excite for Battle Gear.  In absence of any other indications (NO SPOILERS) I'm going to assume battle gear becomes playable at some point.

Also wondering exactly how the FOB thing will come into play, like what the in-universe explanation for it will be.  I'm going to assume that a whole flock of copycat outer heavens start cropping up as Huey's tech becomes more prevalent, completing the metal-gears-as-a-metaphor-for-nuclear-proliferation thing.  Again, no spoilers.  Mysteries on mysteries though.

My favorite moment in the game so far was when the BUrning Man attacked and I was like "Oh!  This must be why the children gave me a water gun to save their friend!"

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What MSH said about the kids.  They weren't going to be trained as soldiers.  But... they probably will join anyways when they grow 'old enough to make their own choice'... though, they do have options in the not-as-much-combat wings of MB.  Its not like they have many options in life after this.

I tried using the super soaker on the burning man.  Who hasn't tried to?

I've been attacked in FOB at least 3 times.  1st time, I was actually there to fight back and win, it was late at night, so the connection was stable...  Casualties, 2.
The other two times, I was not around.  I think one of them may have d/c mid-match?  Or was tranqed/stunned enough times by the defenders to cause a defeat?  4 guys were fultoned.  I've a mind for a rescue op, but cringe at the auto-lose by d/c.  Which would probably shut down my chances for any further rescue attempts.
All of em were considered victories, so I have no protection time.

[Cthulhu]

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I see what you're getting at and it's good, though in a sense of the ends, what I remember from the global situation in Rising suggests to me that it wasn't necessarily a good thing he made.  The game started with bionically augmented mercs getting attacked by different bionic mercs who also have WMDs.  And the story seems to mostly entail mercs and city-killing supermachines turf warring until there's no turf left to war over.  I'll definitely have to replay it though with the rest of the story in mind, probably save it for last.  My reading of him as crazy mainly comes from his initial response before Kaz reminds him that no, the kids aren't naturals, they've been forced into this.

It's true though, it's not like there's anything good waiting for them whatever paths they take.  Good game.  Can't wait to get home and see where it goes next. 

[Greenbane]

Does the PC version have that kind of multiplayer available right now?

FOBs supposedly bring in more resources and allow you to make more deployments simultaneously, but beside the fact I haven't unlocked the option yet (episode 18 or 19), I heard they can and will be attacked by other players, losing you personnel. I'm not so keen on that.

[Zangi]

Does the PC version have that kind of multiplayer available right now?

FOBs supposedly bring in more resources and allow you to make more deployments simultaneously, but beside the fact I haven't unlocked the option yet (episode 18 or 19), I heard they can and will be attacked by other players, losing you personnel. I'm not so keen on that.

Meh, on one hand, I have over 1000 personal.  MB cap = 700 and I'm assuming FOB1 Cap = 1400
At this point, as long as they don't take any of my important people, who I've already put a lock on, I'm pretty good.

Benefits of FOB1:
Increased total personal capacity from 700 to 1400.
Higher cap on how effective different branches are, if you do decide to expand FOBs. (Like for example, I have roughly 150 people in R&D, which comes to around lvl 50-55.)
+2 Deployments for those other missions.
Increased resource income.
Probably some other benefits I forgot to mention.

Tip:
Bigger FOB = More time needed for the intruder to 'win', but higher potential for losing defensive stuff.

Also, if you are short on GMP... you can sell excess resources in the resource section.

[Cthulhu]

It does.  I haven't gotten to it either, I'm assuming they want to set it up in the story before they let you use it.

I dunno how good of a design decision that is.  I'm at 50+ hours and while I'm certainly not sprinting it's gonna be quite a hike through some very challenging missions to get to the multiplayer.  Considering the kinds of progression statistics you get on steam from achievements, I'm not sure how many people there'll actually be to play against. 

I am getting better at stealth though.  Maybe it's just the increasing numbers of gadgets or maybe I'm just figuring shit out but all my missions are coming up As on the first try and I'm going back through earlier missions to grab perfect stealth no kill awards.  Gonna get me that foxhound badge.  Maybe that's why it's so late in the game, forcing me to actually prove I know how to play before I go stealth people.  It'll be interesting to see how the stealth gameplay translates to human opponents who won't be fooled by my box shenanigans.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It'll be interesting to see how the stealth gameplay translates to human opponents who won't be fooled by my box shenanigans.

If this game is like every other form of Metal Gear PvP, you will be shocked by how untrue that is.