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Artifact creator doesn't gain skill
« on: December 22, 2007, 10:14:00 am »

My armorer created a legendary pair of copper chainmail leggings, but did not become legendary.
I have had another strange mood, and the creator became legendary, so what's the problem?
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Re: Artifact creator doesn't gain skill
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2007, 10:25:00 am »

http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Strange_mood

possessed mood doesn't give legendary status.

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Re: Artifact creator doesn't gain skill
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2007, 10:34:00 am »

Damnit!
I would so have liked a legendary armorer...
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Re: Artifact creator doesn't gain skill
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2007, 02:10:00 pm »

Possession should be toned down a bit, so that if they don't make the item on time they don't go nutters when the mood fails.

After all, it's the possessing spirit that wants the thing made, right?  This way, you don't get a legendary dwarf if it works, and you don't lose a regular dwarf if it fails.

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2007, 02:52:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Kagus:
<STRONG>Possession should be toned down a bit, so that if they don't make the item on time they don't go nutters when the mood fails.

After all, it's the possessing spirit that wants the thing made, right?  This way, you don't get a legendary dwarf if it works, and you don't lose a regular dwarf if it fails.</STRONG>



Think "angry spirit" (don't possessed dwarves usually go berserk when insane?). I'd naturally assume possesions are dangerous.
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Re: Artifact creator doesn't gain skill
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2007, 04:24:00 pm »

I've always thought that the dwarf should gain one skill level. Gaining nothing is disappointing.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2007, 05:06:00 pm »

Possessed dwarves should definitely go insane when they fail as for no skill gain it sucks but what-cha gonna do? Turn down an artifact?
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Re: Artifact creator doesn't gain skill
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2007, 05:29:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Yat:
<STRONG>Possessed dwarves should definitely go insane when they fail as for no skill gain it sucks but what-cha gonna do? Turn down an artifact?</STRONG>

Yes, actually. You only get some many [15?] artifacts before it comes to a halt.
In my most recent fortress, I've had to kill off two masons, a leather worker, a woodcrafter, and six general craftsdwarves because they all wanted to make artifacts [in things I already had]/[while only possessed]. I'd rather have artifacts in useful areas.

Say, can a siege engineer go fey? I haven't had that happen yet.

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2007, 05:41:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Anti-Paragon:
You only get some many [15?] artifacts before it comes to a halt.

That's wrong

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Originally posted by Toady One:
There's a total growing limit based on how many items you've made and how many subterranean squares you've unhidden.

See this thread: http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=002224

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Re: Artifact creator doesn't gain skill
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2007, 06:14:00 pm »

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Originally posted by Anti-Paragon:
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Say, can a siege engineer go fey? I haven't had that happen yet.</STRONG>


Yeah, they can. I always start with someone with a few levels of it, had one go fey almost immediately once, claimed a siege workshop, I couldn't get past the aquifer on that map in time to get him the stone and gems he wanted though, never got to see the artifact. Or the legendary siege engineer.

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2007, 06:35:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Nikinyo:
<STRONG>See this thread: http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=002224</STRONG>

There's still a limit and I'd rather not have artifact stone mugs, gold cepters, and blue diamond amulets.

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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2007, 08:59:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Nikinyo:
<STRONG>

See this thread: http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=002224</STRONG>


Ah, my mistake. I guess I should verify my facts more frequently.

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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2007, 12:43:00 am »

The wiki said 15 at one point because that was the limit before 3D was introduced.  I don't know why someone would put it in the new wiki.
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Re: Artifact creator doesn't gain skill
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2007, 01:04:00 am »

I fixed it on the Wiki... But remember, when you see something wrong on the Wiki, don't be afraid and contribute.  :)
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2007, 08:07:00 pm »

What I find odd is that a possessed dwarf doesn't even gain "dabbling" knowledge of the skill if the possession is successful.  I don't mind the fact that this one mood doesn't make Legendary status, but surely the dwarf has started out?
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