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FrankMcFuzz

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>:( A MILLION ROOMS
« on: May 13, 2011, 01:27:01 am »

I have been playing for a long while now. This isn't a question, more of a general suggestion/complaint/discussion topic.
I have almost made myself entirely fed up with the way I do rooms. 3x3, make bed, make door, put bed in, put door in, assign dwarf, sroll through pages of 250+ dwarves, assign to.
Children don't automatically live with their parents, what the heck is up with that?
My main problem is that, I don't really care who owns what room, and if I wanted to assign a special room to a special dwarf, there should be the option to do so. But alas, I have to assign every single bed by hand, over 150 times per fort. I seem to notice Barracks and hospitals get used more than dorms for dorm purposes. In 40d, the economy would come in and all you needed to do was say "this is a room" and the game would say "kay" and a dwarf would buy it. No scrolling through 250 dwarves, quick, easy, less raaaaaaaarg.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong. But my main issue is that it's far too fiddly than it could be, especially when the game knows you're going to be doing that almost 300 times.
Now for a question. Is there a mod/game feature I can use to assign rooms quicker? I want all my migrants to live happily and non-tantrummy but when they insist on arriving in the 20+'s there's not much I can do other than take a year to get everything so they can get a room, and that's if I prioritize a snuggly bed for Urist over the IMPENDING DOOM of my entire fortress. (It's always impending). I say it should pretty much be automatic, but give you the choice to assign specialised rooms, say, your control-lever-dwarf needs his room right next to the MAGMA.
But hey. I wuv my dorfs <3 So if I have to put up with it then by Urist I will. Now if you'll excuse me, planter 18 and siege engineer 5 need a bedroom.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 01:29:37 am »

You can just make a room, you dont have to assign it. IIRC, the first dwarf without a room that sleeps there will be auto-assigned.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 01:30:33 am »

Yeah, after sizing the room, the first dwarf that sleeps there will automatically claim it. I just build 100ish 3x3 rooms and let them have their pick of the litter, so to speak.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2011, 01:33:16 am »

Seriously?
I usually just chuck all the stuff in there and don't size the room, or tell them it's a bedroom.
I'm about to go scream kthx.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2011, 01:36:20 am »

Lol :)

One thing i have noticed though, is even after 3-4 years of a fort, some dwarves refuse to claim rooms. Eh. Still beats doing it by hand.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2011, 01:37:29 am »

Well the whole process was sped up when I figured out you could chage entire pages with / and *

:|

Assign a room to one dwarf is easier than to 250
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2011, 01:49:51 am »

With 250 dwarves you're supposed to have economy.
With economy you don't assign rooms, except to legendary dwarves and nobles. You just build them and make them avaliable for rent. And the dwarves do the rest on their own. Or at least they're supposed to.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2011, 01:50:28 am »

Isnt economy disabled by default?
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2011, 01:56:27 am »

Basically. In Lazy Newb there's a GUI option to enable it.

But hey. Lets wait until Toady says "Go ahead yo". That's my idea :3
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2011, 02:09:53 am »

Dwarven economy is "permanently" disabled until Toady can get around to fixing it.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2011, 03:39:13 am »

Economy is out in DF2010.

And you really don't need a million rooms... rooms for your most important dwarves, and a dormitory for the haulers/cheese makers/other low use dwarves. Or just really spare beds.

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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2011, 03:49:46 am »

I'm about to go scream kthx.
This is like when people learn of the mass-dump designation feature.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2011, 03:54:47 am »

Yeah, after sizing the room, the first dwarf that sleeps there will automatically claim it. I just build 100ish 3x3 rooms and let them have their pick of the litter, so to speak.
Huh, never knew that.

Of course, I never play with very many dwarves, so it's never been much of an issue for me.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2011, 04:00:55 am »

I want all my migrants to live happily and non-tantrummy but when they insist on arriving in the 20+'s there's not much I can do other than take a year to get everything so they can get a room, and that's if I prioritize a snuggly bed for Urist over the IMPENDING DOOM of my entire fortress. (It's always impending).
Easy. Don't bother giving them a room. Use a dormitory so that they don't sleep on the ground where ever they feel drowsy. Use a 1x1 meeting zone, that'll keep them ecstatic.

In my fortress, rooms are built at the earliest about 5 years in, and only given to married couples so that they can in theory go and get a room for the spore contamination. I may also give rooms to unmarried members of the starting seven, but that's because they're privileged. And of course a slightly better room for the baron and similar scum.

This offers the definite advantage that I only need half as many rooms (if that) in comparison to you.

Also, I find 3x3 extremely excessive as size of a room for a simple peasant.
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Re: >:( A MILLION ROOMS
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2011, 04:10:18 am »

3x1 is what I give to most dwarves. 3x3 is reserved to my starting seven, and other important dwarves. Bigger is for noble trash.

Though in my fortresses, the noble trash usually consists of my expedition leader (who is not trash, in fact he makes most of the administrative work in the fortress) and sometimes an useless hauler who became mayor because he socialized too much.
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