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Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« Reply #14805 on: May 15, 2015, 09:09:45 am »

... Heimer's turrets can crit..?

... Interesting...
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« Reply #14806 on: May 15, 2015, 09:11:58 am »

I've only played against one heimer recently and he was a dumbass.  The usual, passive farming vs. nasus.  That's what I love about Nasus.  When you misplay against Darius you know immediately by your gaping face wounds that you need to change your game up.  Nasus is insidious though.  If you're not already familiar with how to beat him, the cue that you've misplayed comes after it's already too late.  If you let Nasus get 200 stacks and iceborn gauntlet in 15 minutes there's no unfucking your situation.

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Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« Reply #14807 on: May 15, 2015, 09:23:44 am »

I'm pretty sure heim's turrets can't crit. I've tried that before and they didn't, so unless it was added in the last couple patches there's no way they crit.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« Reply #14808 on: May 15, 2015, 09:41:54 am »

I can't seem to find a definitive answer online as to whether they can or can't. There's certainly enough builds floating around out there for Critdinger, although most are a couple of years old.

Even played more conventionally, Heimerdinger is just a beast in ARAM if played right. I wish they had a Gandalf skin for him (kind of like Veigar Greybeard), just so I could yell "YOU SHALL NOT PASS". Because a wall of well-placed turrets halts pretty much any enemy advance, unless it's a complete rout.


EDIT: Yeah, some testing seems to back up frostshotgg's assertion. So I guess it was just the Magic Pen and all those crit chance runes didn't do squat for him (other than making a nasty surprise with his AA).
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« Reply #14809 on: May 21, 2015, 08:29:38 am »

So, I'm at this magical point again, where I want to burn the game to a disk JUST so I can obliterate it with a hammer in my backgarden.

Silver I, lost my Promos for the second time this week. One a pretty close game, and the second after our Jinx decided that top giving firstblood is a good excuse for going afk (She wanted top first, was last pick, top is FB, they argue, Jinx goes afk.).

I would probably sacrifice my left leg for something akin to Teambuilder for Ranked, so I can choose my lane beforehand. I'm so sick and tired of people "Toporafk" or being forced on botlane and then sitting there, watching as the midlaner plays way too aggressively, or the jungler ignores Dragon all game and then wonders why we loose every flabbin' teamfight.

Also, people seem to pick more and more tanks, which makes Shaco a less viable pick for jungling. And ofc just when I was _this_ close on at least having some fun with a jungler again.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« Reply #14810 on: May 21, 2015, 09:22:32 am »

It's been a bad week for me too.  Been playing almost exclusive duo and 3queue.  Our third is gone though, he was new and it's pretty hard to learn the game from other people.  There's so many situational elements that you can really only learn through personal experience and when you're getting info from other people there's a lot of "Do x, no don't fucking do x, y is here so you have to do z, why the fuck are you doing z this game that's only good when y."  So he's out.

The other guy's good and I've been duoing with him which has boosted my mmr until I'm playing against people I can't really deal with.  I think I've got one positive KDR on my last-10 board right now, I'm constantly going into matches against golds and plats and just getting my ass kicked.  Everybody says you learn the most from playing out of your league but I don't really see it.  Games are just a bewildering mess of losing things I shouldn't be losing.  I go even as Irelia and hit my level 9 peak and then get my ass kicked in trades, people are just better mechanically than me at this level and I can't deal with it.  This same thing happened last time I played.  I started playing Talon right after Zed got nerfed and all of Talon's easiest matchups were meta won like 90% of my games, then suddenly I'm playing against challengers and losing every single game.

The only thing these experiences are teaching me is that I shouldn't play league of legends.  I'm not learning shit from getting cheesed by people who've been playing longer than me.  Last game was a Hecarim top that came into lane at level 2.  That's some shit.  Even without the jungle cheese, if a Hec goes top it's cause he knows things about Hecarim nobody else does.
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« Reply #14811 on: May 21, 2015, 01:10:25 pm »

I've settled into ARAM-only as the stress-free way to play PvP.

Ranked is like running for office -- if you're really good at it, you could win some accolades and eventually spend most of your time just trying to stay at the level you're already at, much less ascending to higher office. But mostly, it's just an invitation for people to shit all over you every chance they possibly get.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« Reply #14812 on: May 21, 2015, 02:50:18 pm »

I personally enjoy Sion in the jungle, even though the recent changes to his W makes it harder to use it as a means to damage jungle camps because of the extra second it takes to prime to explode and the slightly less health it gives you.

2nd favourite jungler would be Vi who feels like a much more mobile Sion and you gotta love the % life dmg she can dishes out on every 3rd strike. It really helps tank busting.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« Reply #14813 on: May 21, 2015, 06:34:34 pm »

Sion just doesn't feel the same after the rework. Even at level 16 with a near 40 second cooldown on his ultimate, it feels far too easy to dodge, along with the charge time on his Q. The E is a nice compromise between utility and damage, and his shield is by far the best part of his kit (though I wish they still had Atmas available...).

I want to like him, because there's just something terrifying about seeing an undead juggernaut doing the Kool aid man into your champion when you're not expecting it. But Armok help you if the enemy has any form of interrupt for your Q, or the presence of mind to do a simple sidestep.
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« Reply #14814 on: May 22, 2015, 09:59:09 am »

The point of his ult, in my opinion, is to force the enemy team to burn their dashes and fuck up their positioning. If you can land it super. If you can't, just terminate early and try to splash damage someone and set yourself up to E them.

Your team should be running in right behind you trying to take advantage of the burnt dashes and poor positioning.
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« Reply #14815 on: May 22, 2015, 10:23:49 am »

I've been doing my best to rise to the occasion of these out-of-my-league opponents and it's starting to work!  I've been pulling my own weight in the last few games and even won my lane against a plat with 1200 wins.  It was Irelia vs Ryze so it's not like it was a tough lane, but still.
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« Reply #14816 on: May 25, 2015, 03:25:00 am »

Just kidding.  I give up.

I don't know how many times I have to be complete deadweight before the fucking game realizes I'm out of my league and matches me with people I can actually play against.

I don't think I'm going to find out either.  Honestly, this is putting me off the game.  This is turning the game into a stressful, nerve-wracking, painful chore.  Every time I queue up it's like "oh god, what's it gonna be this time?"  The only time i actually did decent was against a fucking ryze.  This isn't fun.  I am not enjoying the time I'm spending on this game anymore.

And I just talked myself into uninstalling.  It was a fun few weeks league, but it's over, for good this time.
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« Reply #14817 on: May 25, 2015, 05:01:20 am »

I feel the same way about many first person shooters. Everyone else seems way out of my league most of the time, unless I find a niche that I'm good at (sniping and anti-aircraft in Battlefield 4, for example). Planetside 2 hurts me to play at times, despite friends wanting to play it recently, as the run and gun twitch shooter just doesn't mesh with my video game skill set, which is more along the lines of strategy and planning, with time being taken to consider my moves.

League is one of those things that it either clicks or it doesn't, to some extent. Some of these guys (myself included) have been playing since DotA in the Warcraft 3 days, and have certain actions and situational awareness wired in ways that others don't.

Not that a history of DotA playing means I'm even that good. I haven't tried to play ranked yet, as it's much less frustrating and more fun to screw around playing normals and ARAMs with friends.
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« Reply #14818 on: May 25, 2015, 01:08:46 pm »

Just kidding.  I give up.

I don't know how many times I have to be complete deadweight before the fucking game realizes I'm out of my league and matches me with people I can actually play against.

I don't think I'm going to find out either.  Honestly, this is putting me off the game.  This is turning the game into a stressful, nerve-wracking, painful chore.  Every time I queue up it's like "oh god, what's it gonna be this time?"  The only time i actually did decent was against a fucking ryze.  This isn't fun.  I am not enjoying the time I'm spending on this game anymore.

And I just talked myself into uninstalling.  It was a fun few weeks league, but it's over, for good this time.

I really doubt the calibration's that bad (or even bad at all, since, if there's one thing Riot's good at doing, it's player retention)... but on the other hand, even 10 games might be a bit much to be forced to play while getting bodied.

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« Reply #14819 on: May 25, 2015, 01:43:51 pm »

I've probably got six or seven of them since I noticed it was happening at this point.  I won two of them, one with jungle Xin and one with Irelia.  The Xin we barely won and I only helped by peeling, the Irelia I was against a Ryze and that's the only reason I was able to pull my weight.  Every other game has been a nightmare.  I'm not going to waste my time seeing how many it'll take to put me on a playable mmr again.
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