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[The Scout]

To be fair, if every average joe's idea of balance was taken into consideration, uh...

I've got no idea of which heroes are rarely-if-ever used in pro games and often used in pubs, but Dota has Rikimaru the Stealth Assassin, who has permanent invisibility as his ult and is damn easy to shut down, but he'd be nerfed to hell if the average pubber had a say even though he's not that good.

I would think Viper would qualify as a better example.

[frostshotgg]

I don't mean to make riot sound malicious in relation to ADs. They did fuck up big time, you need roughly 4k more gold to be at the same power level relative to the rest of the game than last patch. That's a huge amount. They effectively did invalidate the AD, because now they only do anything but afk farm 25+ minutes into the game. Games can and do end well before then.

@Dice: I didn't mean to imply that only Challenger's opinions on Poppy matter. I was just saying that if I knew the trick to playing her, I would be able to carry myself up to there. Poppy, when the stars align just so and the planets form a perfect circle, is an unstoppable god who can 1v5 under fountains. I was trying to say that I don't know what it is that makes that happen. However, I do know some of the conditions, and one of them is that she needs gold, and a lot of it. Reaver is a glorified laning item, and it has nowhere near the value it needs to maintain its place on a 6 item build, which means it needs to get sold, which means you lose out on some of the price. That's a bad thing™ for Poppy.

[penguinofhonor]

On the PBE they changed all the instances of the word Darius' to Darius's. I think we can all agree that this change is awful.

[frostshotgg]

It's grammatically correct.

[Putnam]

It's grammatically correct.

It was before...

[IronyOwl]

It's grammatically correct.

That doesn't make it not hideous.

[penguinofhonor]

It is grammatically correct in the worst possible way.

[Jack_Bread]

Bloodthirster on the PBE gives +10% bonus AD now.
Also Urgot got a new splash art. Hopefully he's getting some changes soon.

[frostshotgg]

More importantly, Spirit of the Golem now gives +25% bonus health. It's not like I wanted to kill Mundo/Shyvana/Cho anyways.

[Arcvasti]

So they're buffing BT [And also nerfing its shield, because that wasn't pathetic enough already], buffing Nidalee, fiddling with Ancient Golem and most importantly, the SR VU is coming soon. Seems like an altogether more productive patch then the last one was.

[Skyrunner]

Kinda feels like they're trying to make tank junglers viable again.

[Flying Dice]

@Dice: I didn't mean to imply that only Challenger's opinions on Poppy matter. I was just saying that if I knew the trick to playing her, I would be able to carry myself up to there. Poppy, when the stars align just so and the planets form a perfect circle, is an unstoppable god who can 1v5 under fountains. I was trying to say that I don't know what it is that makes that happen. However, I do know some of the conditions, and one of them is that she needs gold, and a lot of it. Reaver is a glorified laning item, and it has nowhere near the value it needs to maintain its place on a 6 item build, which means it needs to get sold, which means you lose out on some of the price. That's a bad thing™ for Poppy.

I was a bit harsh with that, sorry.

But I can tell you what Poppy needs: for the Philo stone to be brought back. 

Seriously though, all you need is a) to not feed horribly and get a little farm during lane phase and b) a game that lasts for 40+ minutes without the enemy team getting a large lead. You got it in one; Poppy's flaw is that she is a super-late-game champion and most matches are decided a long time before she becomes relevant. Now that philo stone is gone her lane phase is even worse, and pretty much the only way to be relevant at 20min is for your jungler to camp and feed their top laner to you over and over. Unless their team has Rumble top and Amumu jung, in which case you're fucked.

So they're buffing BT [And also nerfing its shield, because that wasn't pathetic enough already], buffing Nidalee, fiddling with Ancient Golem and most importantly, the SR VU is coming soon. Seems like an altogether more productive patch then the last one was.

In order: Great, excellent, sooper awsum I might actually play tanky junglers again.

[Skyrunner]

Poppy is better jungle than top, even though she has to build a jungle item before the triforce. The jury is out on whether FF or Spirit ote Lizard Is better. The nerfs to FF probably make it not as worth.

[Flying Dice]

I'd heard as much but hadn't tried it yet. I guess I will, then. As for FF vs EL, post-nerf seems pretty obvious. The extra gold from the Wriggle's line is nice, but not enough to offset FF being pretty bad now.


e: New joy in life: play Xerath with a TF on the same team. Kite a Singed forever.

[Sinistar]

Bloodthirster on the PBE gives +10% bonus AD now.
Also Urgot got a new splash art. Hopefully he's getting some changes soon.

Well, not only is this one of the more decent splash arts when it comes to new splash arts, it also IS a pretty effin decent splash art.
His on-map icon looks like the rest of the new ones - a mess of the same colors of different shades. Bleh.


Nope, I don't like new splash arts in general. But there are some exceptions. Malphite's is pretty nice too, even though his face kinda reminds me of Diablo from Diablo 3 now.