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[Mookzen]

Just for the record, cyka means bitch in russian.

[Sharp]

If you play Dota 2 and like it there isn't much need to really try out LoL, and vice versa. MOBA's are MOBA's and although they are all similar they are also all different, if you like playing one MOBA there really isn't a need to switch to another as it will just be hard work switching between the two games and the subtle (or not so subtle) differences that they have in gameplay.

I tried a bit of Dota 2 and couldn't really get into it because of the differences from LoL but I'm sure if I played Dota 2 first then it would be the same case and I wouldn't be playing LoL

[Putnam]

If you play Dota 2 and like it there isn't much need to really try out LoL, and vice versa. MOBA's are MOBA's and although they are all similar they are also all different, if you like playing one MOBA there really isn't a need to switch to another as it will just be hard work switching between the two games and the subtle (or not so subtle) differences that they have in gameplay.

I tried a bit of Dota 2 and couldn't really get into it because of the differences from LoL but I'm sure if I played Dota 2 first then it would be the same case and I wouldn't be playing LoL

See, that I would probably disagree with. I like differences! I think the main problem would be me having to constantly compare to the familiar. I know nearly every hero in Dota now, but there are definitely heroes in LoL that aren't similar at all. Kayle is sorta like Omniknight, but not really, Teemo's like if Techies if Techies were poison-based and invis (which sounds frigging annoying by the way), and I know for a fact that nobody's like Meepo, since they seem very anti-micro in LoL; Meepo's ult is a passive makes another Meepo per level. If any Meepo dies, all Meepos die. There can thus be up to 4 Meepos... unless you get Aghanim's Scepter, in which case there are 5, all of whom you have to control and make sure don't die. But then there's the obvious temptation of having one bot, one top, one mid and two jungle...

I've heard there are 5 micro-allowed heroes in LoL (one of 'em has a deathy name, Mordensomething), and I've recently taken a liking to playing micro in these games, since I've played no less than two games of all random in a row where I ended up with micro-based junglers in Dota 2 (one as Enchantress, who can take over and directly control jungle creeps and one as Enigma, who can turn creeps of any kind into 3 eidolons who themselves make lesser eidolons when they attack enough).

Any free heroes like that right about now?

...I just said "free heroes". Eugh.

[IronyOwl]

I've heard there are 5 micro-allowed heroes in LoL (one of 'em has a deathy name, Mordensomething)

They are indeed very anti-micro in Lol; there are no controllable minion-themed champions like Enchantress or Brood Mother. There are a few minion-heavy champions, but their summons are automated, so the controllable ones are ults or clones. Mordekaiser, Annie, and Yorick fall under the former category, while Shaco and LeBlanc fall under the latter.

None of them are free this week either. Elise is, if you wanted to try a non-micro minion user. She's got two forms and has to manage spiderling charges as a sort of secondary resource, so she might fit the bill in terms of complexity.

...I just said "free heroes". Eugh.

I can certainly see not being fond of this, but I don't mind it much. It is a shame that there's no way to try a champion before buying them other than waiting for them to come up for free, but otherwise most people probably wouldn't regularly play that many champions anyway.

[Flying Dice]

...I just said "free heroes". Eugh.

I can certainly see not being fond of this, but I don't mind it much. It is a shame that there's no way to try a champion before buying them other than waiting for them to come up for free, but otherwise most people probably wouldn't regularly play that many champions anyway.

I'll just put it out there that 2/3 of my champion pool are ones that I probably wouldn't have considered playing if I hadn't happened to try them when they came up on freeweek rotation. Heh, it also gives you a chance to realize that you suck massively with certain champs *cough*Orianna*cough* before you unlock them

[frostshotgg]

One of the things that's really different about League is that each character is not distinct. Riot's been working on making it so it's not just a case of "which character in this class is the best right now", particularly with some of their newer champs, but many of the older champs are completely interchangeable until you get to a fairly high level of play.

[Skyrunner]

Looks like Poppy is still underpowered with Feral Flare :v

Warwick too stronk~

[Chaoswizkid]

If you play Dota 2 and like it there isn't much need to really try out LoL, and vice versa. MOBA's are MOBA's and although they are all similar they are also all different, if you like playing one MOBA there really isn't a need to switch to another as it will just be hard work switching between the two games and the subtle (or not so subtle) differences that they have in gameplay.

I dunno, I think there is a decent enough reason to swap between DotA 2 and LoL. The gameplay mechanics on a macro scale are very similar, but on the micro-scale, particularly with how items and champion stats work, is pretty important. It's also worth it to experience the different communities for yourself to see which is better/worse rather than just take it from people who probably don't know what they're talking about.

As for other MOBAs, I'd say stick with DotA 2 over HoN, because HoN is a ripoff of DotA: Allstars that is poorly balanced and poorly maintained (if I remember correctly). Smite is very interesting for a MOBA, but its very difficult to unlock stuff and its GUI is not very user-friendly at all, at least for someone who is used to stuff like LoL and DotA. As for the others, I'm pretty sure they're just small-fry. You might find something you like, but it's likely not going to be as polished or have as much of a user base.

Micro champs

I think the best you're going to get at any sort of micro is Shaco's ult or LeBlanc's passive. So no, not a lot of micro going on (but when you pull off neat tricks with clones you feel super badass).

[Sharp]

My main point is if you like the MOBA you are playing. If you don't like Dota you might like LoL, it's rare that your going to really like both games at the same time because you do need to learn what all the champions and items do and how they can interact with each other and then the interface differences as well, all the differences will really make the game you play first the one you are most likely to keep playing. It's not about the differences within the game but the differences between the games which will make you choose one game over the other.


EDIT:

Just want to say as well, Irelia jungle with Feral Flare is so strong now as well, so easy to chase down enemy champs by leaping through minion waves and AS bonus fits well in Irelia's kit to deal true damage and healing bonus and tanky irelia is always annoying with her true damage and tenacity.

[quinnr]

I wish they had more bundles...over the past couple months I got both of them, and it's a pretty good deal and way to get a well rounded set of champs. But now the 6300 champs feel really expensive >_< always sales though, I guess.

[Cthulhu]

Feral flare soooo ooooo peeee

[Sharp]

frostshot should probably coach the pro's, all the Xins and Nocturnes using Feral Flare instead of Lizard Elder.

[Flying Dice]

Man, so I decided to pick a new champion to binge with, and I went with Jax. Best decision of the week.

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Wins aside, I just did something incredibly stupid that won a game. I'd done pretty well, 8/1/something against a Nasus, and we'd just finished Baron. We'd split pretty badly  (one guy went towards our blue, I towards our midlane tower, and three backing in the brush) when they came as five from their wraith camp. One of the backers went around towards blue, the other two towards me. That's the point where I turned around, ran back in, and R+E+W+Q'd straight into the middle of their team. Even before I hit my leap I was literally thinking, "What the fuck are you doing you're going to throw, everyone already got away!"

It's without exaggeration one of the worst engages I've ever started, one of those gut-wrenching moments where you realize that you're absolutely screwed. I'd basically no tanky stats apart from my ult and a little HP; I had BoTRK/Tri/BC/mercs at that point. I somehow managed to live long enough to pop my stun on them, chase their Graves out and kill him, pop my BoTRK active on the Nasus, and by that point my team had turned and killed them all. We weren't even really ahead, apart from myself and our jungler, we were horribly split with two people completely out of position, and I--the closest we had to a tank--had just jumped alone into the middle of the enemy team, and somehow it turned into a 5-0 wipe and victory. So fucking stupid, but I'm giggling gleefully. xD

[Frumple]

Jax is the best mutant ninja turtle in the league, yes.

Also the only one, but eh.

[Flying Dice]

To be fair, there's also a Splinter. Sort of.