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Author Topic: League of Legends - Patch 7.22 - Runes Reforged  (Read 1289441 times)

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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12855 on: March 19, 2014, 04:48:49 am »

It was supposed to make him not get banned so much, it's not working :P

Could just be teething time as more players get used to it but I always thought Kassa was op just because of the huge mobility burst combo, it's like LeBlanc but shorter cooldown, with his lvl 16 ult being 3 second cooldown before any CDR and he gets % mana restoration on W it's going to be pretty hard to pin him down ever in late game, Kassa builds fairly tanky for a mage anyway.

<3 second ult is going to make him super hard to pin down without a lot of chain CC.

I am still going to pick/ban him 100%
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12856 on: March 19, 2014, 09:15:08 am »

The thing that made Kass a bitch to deal with was his silence, the fact that he could just turn off any response another mage could have to him for 3 seconds while he walks away.
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« Reply #12857 on: March 19, 2014, 10:01:53 am »

About last-hitting: Annie is also really good if you have trouble, since her Q is free if it kills, which means that you can use it for last hits (at level 6, you can easily take about a third of a minions health with it, late game is insta-gib). As a bonus, it helps activate your passive (stuns every fifth spell, very strong if used on your ult), and it's so mana-hungry that it's barely worth it to harass with it. Her auto-attack is also pretty good for a midlane, at least in my experience, so you can poke with it if your opponent is dumb.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12858 on: March 19, 2014, 11:45:57 am »

The thing that made Kass a bitch to deal with was his silence, the fact that he could just turn off any response another mage could have to him for 3 seconds while he walks away.

true story, now fighting against Katarina is a nightmare, specially lategame (she can kill you so quick that you dont get to cancel her ult with the Q)
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12859 on: March 19, 2014, 02:48:06 pm »

Kassa, noooooooooooooooo!!!

The reason I started playing him was because they reworked Xerath. Now they rework him too.

WHY DOES EVERYTHING I PLAY GET REWORKED!?!?!?

On that note, I should probably take up playing Yorrick again, maybe that'll hurry up his much needed rework too :P

Anyways. Depending on the shield strength, it could still be the same, he pokes, and then walks away with his shield tanking most of the damage :S
One thing that my more game savvy friend said is that he's a somewhat viable top now, how true is that? Also that he'd try and build him with Nashors tooth to try and play with that W passive.

Also, his new passive is rather boring, he's what, the third champ now to have no unit collision?
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12860 on: March 19, 2014, 04:02:57 pm »

Kassa, noooooooooooooooo!!!

The reason I started playing him was because they reworked Xerath. Now they rework him too.

WHY DOES EVERYTHING I PLAY GET REWORKED!?!?!?

On that note, I should probably take up playing Yorrick again, maybe that'll hurry up his much needed rework too :P

Anyways. Depending on the shield strength, it could still be the same, he pokes, and then walks away with his shield tanking most of the damage :S
One thing that my more game savvy friend said is that he's a somewhat viable top now, how true is that? Also that he'd try and build him with Nashors tooth to try and play with that W passive.

Also, his new passive is rather boring, he's what, the third champ now to have no unit collision?

not worth the effort, hes paperthin and the shield has a short duration and doesnt cover much, it's still too much weak for putting it in top, some people talk about putting stuff like frost heart but im still not convinced,
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12861 on: March 19, 2014, 04:07:38 pm »

also, i need help with K6 (Kha'zix), been testing him this week with the free rotation, gameplay wise is badass, but im still trying to figure out how to build him.... usually go with this:

-Bloodthirster
-Trinity
-Berserk Greaves
-Phantom Dancer

i havent had time to complete the set, the wiki states that he should use a manamune and it seems logical taking in account that he's dependant in his powers, but this means that the lifesteal is left unchecked, should i change the bloodthirster for a hextech gunblade?, something like this:

-Hextech Gunblade
-Trinity
-Muramana
-Berserk Greaves
-Black Cleaver( or Phantom Dancer ?)
-Infinity Edge (or Guardian Angel for survivability)
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« Reply #12862 on: March 19, 2014, 05:14:14 pm »

Kha'zix build? Ok, well it looks like you're trying to build him as a straight AD carry, which he isn't. He's an assassin through and through, so you want enough of a damage spike to explode an AD carry, a mage, or a squishy support, and then enough survivability to be able to get into a team, do that, and then get out alive. Sustained damage (so your general AD carry build) on him isn't that great because he's melee and squishy.

First item is Ravenous Hydra, almost no question about it at the moment. Lets you clear waves with no effort which is great since void spikes chew through mana if you use it for wave clear (and even better allows you to isolate your lane opponent easier), and simply adds a ton of damage and lifesteal.

Next thing you want is armour penetration, so that means either a Brutalizer (into a black cleaver or ghostblade later), or a Last Whisper. If there's a lot of armour on the enemy team, that means both, but if you only take one take LW.

Boots-wise, depends. Lucidity(?) (the cooldown ones) or Mercury treads are your best options, depending on how much crowd control you're against. Tabi can be good if you're against a lot of AD. I used to like Mobility boots on him before they got nerfed as it gave you complete map control once you had wings if you were even slightly ahead.

If you want more offense (really the items above should be enough to destroy just about anything you want to jump on) then a Bloodthister is probably the choice. Manamune is also an option but takes a long time to build up. I'd only recommend it if you're playing top lane and in a matchup where you have no choice but to play really defensive in the lane, as it tanks your offense for a while in exchange for mana/health (from void spikes) regen.

Generally after that you then want defense. Guardian Angel is nice for a last item since you jump in deep a lot so you're likely to die. Randiun's Omen is awesome on him actually. Lot of health, armour and a slow for good measure. Banshee's Veil is great too for the spell shield, or a Warmog's if you don't need that and the MR (after the Randiun's). On that note full tank Kha'Zix is something I'm messing around with and it's absolutely hilarious to play.
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« Reply #12863 on: March 19, 2014, 05:15:28 pm »

Depending on who he is facing Kassa can be decent top. His strength is being able to roam though and ganking someone with stacks on his ult. With his mana regen he can do a lot of poke and doesnt need to start with flask so yeah I would say he is viable top against a few champs who don't have high mobility. Renekton and Irelia would beat him but he could probably do well vs a Mundo or Shyvana especially as they do a fair bit of magic damage and are more reliant on spamming abilities to let Kass's E get up.

I hate stealth champs, I hope they rework it soon. I was facing Twitch top as a Zac and it was not fun... everytime I engaged on him he could just stealth away and it's so expensive buying pink wards especially if he doesn't die as he just kills it later. I would really like an item like Oracles Elixir which can only spot stealth champs and not wards and then I would be much happier vs Twitch's and Shaco's and Rengar's and Khazix's. Akali's I don't mind so much especially as she doesn't get free stealth for half a second out of shroud anymore and Eve I don't mind so much even though she can be annoying.

That Twitch was annoying though and my team wasn't helping, especially the jungler running towards me at (while im at low health) while Twitch is shooting his ult at him even though jungler has half health.....
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12864 on: March 19, 2014, 05:38:22 pm »

This discussion might be over, but I'm a Skarner player and I really like the Skarner rework.

Yeah, the permaslow is gone. Yeah, that was a huge part of Skarner's power that was really fun and I don't get to enjoy that anymore. But I get four skills instead of three now! And the ranged slow lets Skarner be more useful more of the time. There are more positives than negatives here.
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« Reply #12865 on: March 19, 2014, 09:47:29 pm »

Kha'zix build? Ok, well it looks like you're trying to build him as a straight AD carry, which he isn't. He's an assassin through and through, so you want enough of a damage spike to explode an AD carry, a mage, or a squishy support, and then enough survivability to be able to get into a team, do that, and then get out alive. Sustained damage (so your general AD carry build) on him isn't that great because he's melee and squishy.

First item is Ravenous Hydra, almost no question about it at the moment. Lets you clear waves with no effort which is great since void spikes chew through mana if you use it for wave clear (and even better allows you to isolate your lane opponent easier), and simply adds a ton of damage and lifesteal.

Next thing you want is armour penetration, so that means either a Brutalizer (into a black cleaver or ghostblade later), or a Last Whisper. If there's a lot of armour on the enemy team, that means both, but if you only take one take LW.

Boots-wise, depends. Lucidity(?) (the cooldown ones) or Mercury treads are your best options, depending on how much crowd control you're against. Tabi can be good if you're against a lot of AD. I used to like Mobility boots on him before they got nerfed as it gave you complete map control once you had wings if you were even slightly ahead.

If you want more offense (really the items above should be enough to destroy just about anything you want to jump on) then a Bloodthister is probably the choice. Manamune is also an option but takes a long time to build up. I'd only recommend it if you're playing top lane and in a matchup where you have no choice but to play really defensive in the lane, as it tanks your offense for a while in exchange for mana/health (from void spikes) regen.

Generally after that you then want defense. Guardian Angel is nice for a last item since you jump in deep a lot so you're likely to die. Randiun's Omen is awesome on him actually. Lot of health, armour and a slow for good measure. Banshee's Veil is great too for the spell shield, or a Warmog's if you don't need that and the MR (after the Randiun's). On that note full tank Kha'Zix is something I'm messing around with and it's absolutely hilarious to play.

thanks for the suggestion i used the following build in my last game and it was just enough for it:

-Muramana
-Hydra
-Trinity
-Ionian Boots
-Guardian Angel
-Brutalizer (was in process for the Black Cleaver but won the game before it :c )
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« Reply #12866 on: March 21, 2014, 10:21:00 pm »

I am way super cool. I think I'm getting to be alright as Amu, once he gets his ult, killing two or three people is basically the same effort as killing one. And if you get the items to build up his health and MR and stuff, you can basically just stand under turrets while you kill everyone by the Nexus at once, too. So much funs. (And that's not even talking about his bandages.)

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That's my best kill/die ratio yet! (And most of mine weren't that Cat D:)
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12867 on: March 21, 2014, 10:41:15 pm »

Huh. That Sivir didn't have a trinket.

Food for thought: At that level (I'm assuming the NA account by that name that's level 10), ignite or exhaust are probably better for you than barrier. And of course once you hit level 12, smite/flash always. I also noticed you spent on runes. Really, don't bother with the low level runes. You have so few slots and tier 1/2 runes are so weak that you're basically wasting the IP.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12868 on: March 21, 2014, 11:57:47 pm »

Actually, Tier 1 runes are decent to have. They cost nearly nothing and they provide like 1/2 the effect of T3 runes.

Tier 2 ones are the real noob traps.

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« Reply #12869 on: March 22, 2014, 03:21:20 am »

Skins not stronk enough.

Also big YAY! for Poppy, I love you.

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