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[Sinistar]

If you play mages, Annie is also a really good burst mage. Probably the best champ of the 450's.

Oh, Annie is fun, yes!

And for 450 IP, I find Master Yi ridiculously fun champ too.
And I love Soraka. Try her, if you wish to play a healing-abilities-strong support champion.
And try Garren, if tanky melee fighters are your thing.
And Poppy. One of the least played champs, but just so fun...There's been talk about complete rework of her though. 

[Skyrunner]

Of the 450 champs, Yi is probably the most useless overall (melee adcs tend to be hit or miss; see Fiora), while Annie is currently flavor of the month. Kayle used to be good but then they nerfed her. Ryze is ... ok, and Nunu is pretty bad. Soraka is a decent support, but can't do much against all-in lanes. Poppy is surprisingly fun, but she has a long charge up time (10k gold before she wrecks people), and she's critically weak at top lane.

[Sharp]

Jungle Yi can be pretty strong, has a fast clear, he is more of a kill steal jungler but once he gets snowballed he can be crazy, has a nice combo with Nasus as Nasus wither lasts for so long and alpha strike can follow enemy dashes so it let's Yi get a lot of hits in even when enemy is dashing away.

Poppy top is pretty much like a Vayne where you suck in laning phase but late game monster. More people need to learn to take Barrier with Poppy though as barrier shield doesn't count as health for Poppy's passive so at low health all damage is reduced by 50%. Last time I went Poppy top I bought Face of the Mountain as well as barrier and survived so long at 150hp but I was pretty lucky that enemy team only had 1 ignite which I ulti'd against, it was enemy Shaco who had ulti but I ulti'd his clone which saves me from the Shaco ignite and damage

[Flying Dice]

I play a lot of jungle Yi, and that's fairly accurate. More importantly, he's basically a binary champion: If the enemy team has lots of hard CC, you will crash and burn. If they don't, you will get stupidly fed. Granted, you need to play decently still, but even then with the right build he's still at about 60% the stupidity of AP Yi.


re: Poppy: She's one of the reasons why Ghost exists. You're weak through the first 30 minutes or so of the game, but once you hit that critical point in your build you can literally run into the enemy team, kill whoever you want while taking little to no damage, and stroll away. Though it's always painful to see people ult the support when the support has CC.

As frostshot said, play with the unbound camera. I started like that and never had any problems with it, and it makes for vastly better map awareness and long-range snipes even if you're a new/poor player. After all, all of the benefits (what are they?) of the bound camera still exist in the form of the spacebar.

[Sinistar]

Of the 450 champs, Yi is probably the most useless overall (melee adcs tend to be hit or miss; see Fiora), while Annie is currently flavor of the month. Kayle used to be good but then they nerfed her. Ryze is ... ok, and Nunu is pretty bad. Soraka is a decent support, but can't do much against all-in lanes. Poppy is surprisingly fun, but she has a long charge up time (10k gold before she wrecks people), and she's critically weak at top lane.

Yeah, as said, I'm far from being a diamond league player. 

I was mainly thinking along the lines which champion is fun to play, though not necessary viable. Because honestly I have no clue why some champs are considered viable and some not. Yi is simply FUN with his alpha strike and ulti and for the record, I find Fiora pretty cool too.
I play mainly vs. bots, though I did try PVP few times. I know I came a long way from what I was a year ago, I know which items to choose generally, I can recognize synergy potential between different champs...but when people start to talk numbers, which champ abilities scale well with certain items, which champs trade lanes well and why etc., well, I more often then not go search for guides on lolking and try to understand. 

[xaritscin]

Melee ADCs need a way to CC the enemy in order to put that DPS to work (Sion's stun is one of them), others simply have powers that allow them to hit while being almost untouched (Yi, Fiora, Poppy)...

i only use Sion and Shaco for this, Sion deals a very powerfull blow lategame (more than 1000 critical damage along with monstruous lifesteal and attack speed), Shaco is good due to its powers (people do it AP y prefer AD), he gets good criticals along with nice escape methods and having a clone with the same power as you is basically an advantage against most enemies, along with the slow and fear powers...

[Skyrunner]

Ugh, all my normal ranked games had no trolls and were just the same as normal games, but as soon as I friggin enter my promos I get two games in a row with toxic flamers, afk, and people that intentionally feed just enough to tip a won game into a defeat -_-

[quinnr]

If you play mages, Annie is also a really good burst mage. Probably the best champ of the 450's.

Oh, Annie is fun, yes!

And for 450 IP, I find Master Yi ridiculously fun champ too.
And I love Soraka. Try her, if you wish to play a healing-abilities-strong support champion.
And try Garren, if tanky melee fighters are your thing.
And Poppy. One of the least played champs, but just so fun...There's been talk about complete rework of her though. 

I actually bought Poppy the other day, but can't seem to play her well at all. I kept dying during the beginning farming, leaving me way far behind on levels and gold, so by the end game I couldn't beat anything at all. It was terrible, and this one guy kept yelling at me about how much of a terrible player I am. The main goal of the early game is to just stay close to your minions and help finish off the other ones, right?

Seriously though, what ever happened to sportsmanship? I was pleasantly surprised in one game to hear someone say "Good Luck", but then it was followed up with a "Just kidding, **** you.". Seriously? >_< I can't say that it's that surprising to me, though, the one other game I played with a similar matching system had the same issues.

[Frumple]

Whooo boy. You're in for a ride. LoL's generally considered one of the less toxic AoS-knockoff communities, but that's not really saying much.

Incidentally, there's an ignore feature. Learn it, love it. Vitriol is to be responded to via mute.

[Sinistar]

-snip-

Sorry to hear that, quinnr. Yes, stuff like this happens. Not every time, but for every 4 games with totaly cool people, you'll have one where you won't know if you should facepalm or rage due to how obnoxious even just ONE person is.

But don't let things like that bring you down! Amongst people who rage about "ks" while being on a completely opposite side of the map, there are people who wouldn't mind even if they are loosing the match and everyone in the team is just bad. Lots of people are there for fun, some are there to ruin it for you, but don't give up. 

Also, don't give up on Poppy. You are new to the game, it's understandable you "don't get" every champion now. Give it a few months, maybe just weeks, and you'll look back on your past failings and just chuckle.
Because yeah, as said, Poppy has a hard early game and requires some practice to use her skills right. But once you manage to do that, it's a blast to play with her.

If you by any chance play on EUNE, feel free to PM me, we can add each-other in game and have some good old casual fun.

LoL's generally considered one of the less toxic AoS-knockoff communities

Really?? That's news to me. 
I wonder how bad other games have it then. I mean, it's not like LoL has a community that would make me stop playing the game, but sometimes...I wonder.

[sebcool]

Yeah, the best way to deal with it is to just mute the bastards.

The most important thing is to not start acting like an asshole too, only madness lies in that path.

[IronyOwl]

The main goal of the early game is to just stay close to your minions and help finish off the other ones, right?

Yes, but you have to be careful of being harassed or killed while doing so. It doesn't really help to stay near your minions if you lose 1/5th of your health for each minion you kill.

When in doubt, it's generally better to pass up on gold, and in extreme cases even exp, to wait for a more opportune time, rather than get pushed out of the lane or even killed. Worst case, farming underneath your tower isn't completely safe, but it is considerably safer, and if your enemy's farming they'll end up back there eventually.

I'll also third "Yeah, some people are dicks, don't take it too seriously and for the love of all that is holy don't start acting like them."

LoL's generally considered one of the less toxic AoS-knockoff communities

Really?? That's news to me. 
I wonder how bad other games have it then. I mean, it's not like LoL has a community that would make me stop playing the game, but sometimes...I wonder.

Anecdotally, Dota2 has that weird LoL hate thing going on, which doesn't bode well for the rest of it, and I've heard one of the reasons HoN's dying is because they didn't have bot games forever, which meant nobody could get into the game without being flamed into oblivion over it.

More disturbingly, I don't believe either had any kind of Tribunal for a long time, and Dota2's is still pretty crude, from what I've heard (I actually don't know if/what HoN has at all). Doesn't take much reform card trawling to see what that might be like.

[xaritscin]

didnt know Syndra was so good, i always thought the sphere management was harder than that of Orianna, but is fairly easy TBH......

[Chaoswizkid]

LoL's generally considered one of the less toxic AoS-knockoff communities

Really?? That's news to me. 
I wonder how bad other games have it then. I mean, it's not like LoL has a community that would make me stop playing the game, but sometimes...I wonder.

Anecdotally, Dota2 has that weird LoL hate thing going on, which doesn't bode well for the rest of it

Another problem the DotA 2 community has is that it inherited the DotA: Allstars community, the one that said "Okay, we're going to make it so that people will only want to host with this bot program we have, which won't let anyone play unless they play enough Melee (standard WC3) games and win to get to Rank 5 so they have to put in effort if they want to make new accounts, and if anyone does anything people don't like, they can be permanently shitlisted from ever playing another game of DotA: Allstars again. Also, if they don't have decent ping, auto-kick."

[quinnr]

So I finally took the people's advice on the /mute command. My game was 100% better! There was this one person screaming the whole game about how they were a smurf account, and how terrible everyone else was, and how nobody listened to their advice (even though, everyone did...except the one time where she was furious that nobody would follow her under a turret).

They did still use pings though, which was nice. Good to know mute doesn't block those!

In other news, Kayle is pretty spunky, especially at the end game. Oh, that your turret? How cute. +Movement Speed, +Health, Invincibility, and change my attacks to ranged ones. Kthxbai. I need to remap the self-cast to something more convenient, though.

Also, any new players, learn how to use the unlocked camera, and then learn how to use Quickcast. Both things are immensely helpful, at least to me.