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[Skyrunner]

I dunno, I hate half the 450 champs...

[quinnr]

Someone suggested Amumu, so I looked into him and got him. It's been going really well for me, got his basic strategy down quickly, and looked up some item set suggestions for him. The long-range stun/grab, combined with the AoE ult-stun and AoE/DoT attacks make him pretty awesome in the late game, especially if you jungle and jump out of some bushes at the right time. AoE attacks are great for jungling, too.

Just have fun, don't let any flaming or such get you down - though hopefully there shouldn't be much of it at low levels - and do whatever you most enjoy. I would advise against jungling at first though, not only is it tricky to get the hang of for a new player, but it's much harder if you don't have a full set of runes.

Whoops. >_< I've been making out alright, though, nobody's yelled at me yet, at least. The amount of max-level players with new accounts is scary, though. Going to look into the 450 heroes to start and branch out, since Amumu isn't great outside of jungling AFAIK.

[Frumple]

He actually does decently enough top lane or support too, from what I understand. Did at some point, anyway.

[IronyOwl]

Whoops. >_< I've been making out alright, though, nobody's yelled at me yet, at least. The amount of max-level players with new accounts is scary, though. Going to look into the 450 heroes to start and branch out, since Amumu isn't great outside of jungling AFAIK.

Some of the pros once ran Amumu as a support and wrecked with him. Immediately afterwards they admitted that it was a terrible idea that should not have worked.

Then again, professional play is obviously quite a bit different from low-level solo queue. Who knows how he'd fare down there under your circumstances.

He actually does decently enough top lane or support too, from what I understand. Did at some point, anyway.

I know I've occasionally seen him top in the distant past, but I haven't seen or heard from it recently. I'm not sure if I've personally seen him support or not... I know I've seen him get Philstone, but that might have been while jungling.

Of course, I haven't seen him at all in forever, so that's probably not a good measure of his viability.

[quinnr]

He actually does decently enough top lane or support too, from what I understand. Did at some point, anyway.

I've seen people say that, but I haven't actually given it a try. (In order to actually do well I'm still reliant on item sets and stuff posted by other people, eventually I'll figure out how to pick out what's good myself >_<) I'll try it in a bot match sometime. I guess I'd just push the Bandage Grab over Tantrum more? Even mid-game Amumu I have trouble killing any champions without surprising them. (Late game I get enough stun time and damage that everything dies if I have an ulti-charge)

How is Twisted Fate? I'm tempted to get him just because I love 'gambler' type character classes, but if he's terribad I don't want to waste the cash. But he looks so cool >_<

@ninjapost: Yeah, I feel like these matches are way different than the high-level play is. Which is good, because I'd be destroyed up there D:

[Frumple]

I've seen TF used pretty often in the high level stuff I've watched. The whole near-global teleport and on-demand stun is pretty serious stuff, plus he apparently hits pretty hard. I've never actually played the guy, though.

Which is probably for the best. My map awareness is freaking terrible, and you kinda' need it to be pretty decent to rock TF.

[quinnr]

I've seen TF used pretty often in the high level stuff I've watched. The whole near-global teleport and on-demand stun is pretty serious stuff, plus he apparently hits pretty hard. I've never actually played the guy, though.

Which is probably for the best. My map awareness is freaking terrible, and you kinda' need it to be pretty decent to rock TF.

Yeah, I was having trouble with Ashe and her arrows that go across the entire map. Then I decided I'd suck it up and unlock the camera, and things got much better. It took a couple games to get used to, but it makes things a lot easier. And jungling has started to make me pay more attention to the map and stuff, since you need to jump out and help people when things get interesting.

[Sinistar]

Any time I played TF, I had absolute blast with him. His abilities leave him a decent amout of room of how to play him and they are not that hard to use right, his IP cost is low...I'd say buy him, I know I will someday.

It has to be said though that I'm no pro - I play LoL to have fun. I've seen people bane, hate and call TF a noob champ, but the reasons why escape me. 

[sebcool]

If you play mages, Annie is also a really good burst mage. Probably the best champ of the 450's.

[Flying Dice]

TF is the sort of champ who's really fun to play even if you're terrible with him.

[Sharp]

Karthus can be as well, pretty easy to get kills and assists by pressing R. Amumu top lane isn't a great choice but it depends on who you are facing. Against a melee champ like Trynd, Xin or Wukong he can actually do a lot of damage and make some scary damage trades but if the enemy has some range and mobility then amumu is just target practice as it's hard to land a stun when minions are around, although amumu has some nice burst with enough AP that you can engage with ulti and tie someone down and chain a stun and kill or have easy jungler gank.

Essentially as Amumu top you would have to wait for jungler to come to get any kills until you have enough AP to be able to solo someone but it can be viable to just try and stay defensive until you have ult and jungler while you get tanky and AP as long as you don't feed the enemy, will have hard time early game but can be strong late game.

[Frumple]

Hrg. The problem with karthus is that he's basically shit if you can't land the dot mines, at least the last time I tried the guy.

... I can't land the dot mines. I actually refunded karthus after I bought 'em. Had a good freeplay go, was like yay DoT AoE! + global KS ult! -- but then I actually sat down and tried and it just fell to pieces. Ridiculously Q dependent in practice. M'bloody terrible with the guy.

If you're interested in 'im, I'd say wait for a free week and spend the entire thing seeing you can land the Qs worth a damn. If you can't, just don't bother.

[Sharp]

Yup, pretty much need to be able to land the Q's, however it is feasible just to farm completely safe with long range Q's (minions are easy to predict) and then get a lich bane and go super aggressive just using Q's to get Lich bane proc's while having defile on and charging with auto attacks.

Of course if you can land the Q's then Karthus can deal tons of damage, nice if you have a jungler who can keep enemy in place like Mumu

[Frumple]

The problem with Q farming in utter safety is, y'know, you fall behind. Kinda' badly. Same thing happens with dudes like Mundo -- awesome Q for farming, but still not fast enough. You get outpaced, and by the time you can get lichbane, any enemy worth a damn (and like 50% of those not) will be at the point they can just lolroll all over your face and then proceed to gut your team with their four buddies. Or just spends the whole game on your side of the minions forcing you to either waste Qs on someone that's going to dodge or get smacked in the face. And if you do the first, get smacked in the face anyway.

And that's assuming the jungler doesn't notice the tasty slow farming piece of meat laying around. S'just bad times all around. Wouldn't recommend. Land Qs normally or play someone else.

[frostshotgg]

Re: Amumu. Don't play him anywhere but jungle. He gets eviscerated anywhere where he has to actually see an enemy face outside ganking. The reason he sees so little competetive play these days is that counter-jungling* just ruins him. That said, at lower levels where nobody knows how/when to counter jungle, he's a great pick because his ganks can be devestating and his lategame is amazing.

Re: TF. Despite being a gambler, he actually has very little RNG, although he has one of the only 3 RNG mechanics (AFAIK) left in the game, along with Gangplank and crit. He's very fun to play, even if you're not good at him, and being good at him is ALL in his R. If you want to play him, learn to read the map. Get good at looking for opportunities in various places around the map. Also, I noted you said that you needed to unlock your screen to hit with Ashe. In general, it's accepted that playing with an unlocked screen will improve your map awareness and generally being more able to play, particularly landing long range skills when you're on purple team.

Re: Karthus. Don't play him if you can't use his Q right. His passive is generally bait to newer players, it doesn't give him any more excuse to die than anybody else. People frequently joke about how Karthus is press R to win or toggle e then die, but he's entirely in his Q. If you can't land a decent % of his Qs, you're wasting your time and everybody on your team's.

*Counter jungling: The process of going into the enemy jungle in order to harass/kill their jungler and take their camps. It's worth noting that you can leave 1 creep alive in a camp and it won't respawn, so stealing when stealing a buff you should leave one of the little lizards so the enemy has to come and clear the camp before the respawn timer starts.