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[IronyOwl]

Spoiler: FNC vs SK Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Holy crap that was a stomp.

Finally got around to playing a SR match with Jinx. She too stronk for this world. Even with a supp Nid on the other side and our Blitz alternating between AFKing in lane, missing grabs on stationary targets, feeding, taking cs, and yelling at me, I still outpoked them and got massively fed. Ended the game 13/1/6 after we wiped their team at Baron, and I was playing like a complete doofus for most of the time, doing stuff like trying to 1v1 their Riven. Something obscene like 221k damage dealt, too. I guess I know who I'm saving up for, then.

Spoiler: More General LCS Spoiler (click to show/hide)

One of the casters was mentioning this, pointing out that she's got everything- wave clear, tower shredding, cc, forget if he mentioned her teamfight damage or what.

This right after a game where she just shredded towers middle game-ish, possibly faster than you'd expect a tank to go down. Shredded the waves leading up to them too. BT+Doran's+Pickaxe, ~level 12.

Mind you, they did also mention that her support was amazing.

[Flying Dice]

Finally got around to playing a SR match with Jinx. She too stronk for this world. Even with a supp Nid on the other side and our Blitz alternating between AFKing in lane, missing grabs on stationary targets, feeding, taking cs, and yelling at me, I still outpoked them and got massively fed. Ended the game 13/1/6 after we wiped their team at Baron, and I was playing like a complete doofus for most of the time, doing stuff like trying to 1v1 their Riven. Something obscene like 221k damage dealt, too. I guess I know who I'm saving up for, then.

Spoiler: More General LCS Spoiler (click to show/hide)

One of the casters was mentioning this, pointing out that she's got everything- wave clear, tower shredding, cc, forget if he mentioned her teamfight damage or what.

This right after a game where she just shredded towers middle game-ish, possibly faster than you'd expect a tank to go down. Shredded the waves leading up to them too. BT+Doran's+Pickaxe, ~level 12.

Mind you, they did also mention that her support was amazing.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm hardly an expert, either with her or in general, but that's my impression as well. Pretty much the only thing she lacks is a hard escape mechanic like Ezreal's E, but her slow and root are both sufficient if you land them--and the new patch is pretty much a straight buff for her, because it's supposed to make her flame chompers more reliable.

That's the one thing I'd really noticed: a lot of times you'd land them perfectly, but the enemy (often certain champions) would just walk right through them. With consistent timing and no more dashing over, she's got a hard counter to rushdowns (though straight assassination from fog/brush is still lethal). The shift from flat HP to HP/level isn't really a bad thing, either, because it doesn't touch her early game (W poke and easy farming) while also giving her a mild late-game buff.

[Skyrunner]

I don't think it's a straight buff. Iirc the arming time went up slightly.

But yes, Jinx is now my favorite adc.

[Flying Dice]

I don't think it's a straight buff. Iirc the arming time went up slightly.

But yes, Jinx is now my favorite adc.

It was somewhat inconsistent before; they gave the values of 0.50-0.74 seconds for them to arm prior to this, which sounds close enough. Now it's locked down at 0.6s (IIRC); I'd say that having a consistent trigger time in the middle of the range is better than maybe better/maybe worse depending on how the RNG is feeling.

That aside, even if it was a straight increase to the arm time, fixing them so that they catch people trying to dash over is massive.

[ansontan2000]

Ranked has reset, and I am 3-0 in mid. People really should remember to ban Ziggs and Kassadin....

[Skyrunner]

When I first played ranked I went 7-3, 6 of the games with Sejuani

Right now I'm 1-0 and too afraid to play more q_q

[ansontan2000]

When I first played ranked I went 7-3, 6 of the games with Sejuani

Right now I'm 1-0 and too afraid to play more q_q

Swallow your fear and DO IT!

[Skyrunner]

In a happier note, I played an awesome game just now!

adc-support-mid-top-jungle
Our team: Sivir (me!), Leona, Morgana, Sejuani, Elise
Their team: Caitlyn, Blitzcrank, Kassadin(!), Renekton, Evelynn

For starters, they 5-man invaded and killed Leona, and a kill here and there made it 0-7. It was deathly silent in the chat though, no whining people, no ragers, no cries of "noob you suck uninstall". For some reason, we grouped up and won a small teamfight. It then dawned on us that we have a metric ton of CC, even though the 28 cs at 10 minutes top Sejuani lost horridly in lane. Leona has two stuns, Morgana has a bind and a stun, Sejuani has a knockup, slow, stun, and Elise has that cocoon stun. We grouped up early and kept forcing teamfights, taking down two dragons, mid turret, an early baron; each teamfight, Kassadin and Renekton tried to dive us, but they got chain CC'd. In the teamfights, I mostly aa'd the closest person, and ran away with my ult whenever someone tried to dive me. With a team that acted as a cohesive whole (no people wandering off, following calls to do an objective or back off etc), I had a really enjoyable game.

I've also come to the conclusion that Sivir's waveclear is truely overpowered. A single QW deletes each lane o.O

[SalmonGod]

I played an awesome ARAM game yesterday.  Solo queue'd.  It was 4v5 for the first 30 minutes, and the enemy had a better team comp to begin with.  At that point, we were slowly losing the fight to defend our nexus towers, and one opponent had been talking shit for half the game.  We were pretty well resigned to an honorable loss, after having managed a couple pushes up to the enemy nexus against all odds.

Then our Karthus finally connects and apologizes politely for his connection issues.  One of my teammates is really pissed off and says he'll still be reported, and the Karthus is amazingly chill about it.  We turn around and win the game within the next 5 minutes.  Felt so good.

[Flying Dice]

I had a pretty wonderful Singed top mirror match a few days ago; the other Singed and I reached a gentleman's agreement to allow each other to farm peacefully and warn of incoming ganks (not that it mattered, both junglers came straight up river through our wards every time). We spent about twenty minutes just farming top and talking with each other while mocking our teams, mine for feeding, and his jungle and mid for being condescending twits who were talking down to everyone and claiming to be platinum smurfs.

Unrelated: I wish that I could claim credit for this and make a smarmy, self-depreciating comment about remembering how to play Akali, or say that Graves and Taric really had it together, but no. If I'm to be honest, the credit for this must go to other people, not least because I haven't the foggiest idea how they managed it.

Spoiler: o.o (click to show/hide)

[IronyOwl]

Sorry about that Annie game, web.

[revo]

So what champ would you guys recommend to get introduced to jungling and support? I'm pretty dang new so nothing to complex please.

[Jopax]

As far as cheap ones go, Trynda, Warwick and Jax are pretty good junglers that should teach you the basics of clearing stuff and doing ganks. If you want some more advanced stuff try J4 or Vi or Shyvanna.

As far as supports go it largely depends on what kind would you want? Agressive, passive, tanky, bursty, tons of CC or just some, sustain maybe?
In any case, a good few starters would be Taric, Sona, Leona and Lux, a nicely varied bunch each suited for certain roles. Either check some guides or play them for a bit to try and understand which role they would fill best.

Also, the qualifier matches, how high can those place you? Roommate says you can get as high as Silver 2 if you win them all, regardless of how high you've been before, is that true?

[Skyrunner]

If you have never played Ranked before, the limit is somewhere around Gold 5 to 4. I know that your friend is wrong, because I placed into Silver 1 when I started ranked, and I won 7 and lost 3.

If you've played ranked last season, the max possible is Platinum 1.


Also: Time for me to play the remaining two placement matches I have and see where I get placed!

[Jopax]

Well that's good to know, since I'd really hate having to go trough silver again.

I suggested WW mostly because he's fairly safe to jungle and you can easily gank with him after level 6. And I completely forgot about Lulu, tho, while being strong and a great addition to the team, I'd say her kit takes some getting used to. So I consider her to be a mid tier support, the other ones I mentioned are fairly straightforward without any fiddly abilities or anything, so you can focus more on learning the role of the support, without having to struggle with the champion itself too.