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Author Topic: League of Legends - Patch 7.22 - Runes Reforged  (Read 1289086 times)

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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12645 on: January 06, 2014, 09:44:05 am »

It's extremely low value because it's physical damage on a champ who builds no penetration or only magical penetration. I could do a lot of mathcrafting and show you just how low value it is, or you can believe me when I say his damage comes from Q and W. His E would be amazing on almost any other champ. On him, it's out of place and mostly useless.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12646 on: January 06, 2014, 09:57:46 am »

Physical damage on a magic damage champ means it's harder to itemize against his damage. If you leave E out you miss out on quite some damage.
Mundos build next to no damage items, so they rely on base damage to lay on the hurt. That usually means late game they don't do much damage, but his Q dealing %hp damage and his E being a shitload of AD means Mundo deals quite more damage than expected. Later on W doesn't do much damage but is useful for AOE and CC reduction.
His E on any champ that builds damage would be too OP too work. On Mundo it's perfect because it allows him to build tank and do damage, like his Q does.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12647 on: January 06, 2014, 10:39:02 am »

I got into gold :>

Now to stay there until season five rolls around XD
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12648 on: January 06, 2014, 10:43:20 am »

The hybrid damage thing only applies if it's not negated by everybody's passive armor growth. 100 +1%-hp only helps if there's A, nothing more useful for you to do than attack, and B, it's optimal for you to be sitting on top of an enemy instead of leading them or-
Just noticed you said his W doesn't do much damage later on. You clearly have no idea what the numbers are actually like, this conversation is done. Please, learn the math and numbers then come back and say "E is a big part of his damage".
I got into gold :>

Now to stay there until season five rolls around XD
Gratz. Depending on whether there's gonna be a reset of any kind for S4's actual start, you may have to work back up another division or two. Still a great achievement nonetheless, Silver is the worst tier to play in and have to climb, everybody there acts like they know what they're doing and are assholes to everybody else. It's like they don't actually want to be good.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12649 on: January 06, 2014, 11:04:08 am »

Ok, W does more damage than I remembered. But the damage from E is still on par with the damage from W. Even with passive armor growth.
And leading people doesn't mean you can't autoattack them.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12650 on: January 06, 2014, 11:13:48 am »

It wasn't all that bad actually. Until I got into the promotional, first game my client kept crashing on the loading screen, that costed me some five or so minutes, then I had to face a Yasuo four levels higher than me. That went okayish, I held my own for a while, untill he started roaming and got a few kills here and there. Then our fed Ez started bitching and whining, Ziggs didn't help the situation since he started bitching about Ez and it all kinda spiralled from there.
Second match started better, I even got Nasus and was merrily stomping the enemy Jax after the rough first few minutes. Then our Sivir leaves, took another half hour for the other team to finish us but it was still annoying.

By that point I was ready to give up, so I go to play the last match just to get rid of it, get Rene, stomp faces and win. At this point I'm intrigued by the possiblity and go for another one. Once again, get Rene, stomp faces, win. This happened in the third match too :D
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12651 on: January 06, 2014, 11:41:57 am »

That's Renekton for you.
Mind telling me about Nasus? I can't seem to get to do anything with him.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12652 on: January 06, 2014, 12:02:52 pm »

Nasus is pretty easy, get lifesteal quints and just farm the whole game while building tanky. The only damage item you need is Trinity Force so normally I would start Doran's Shield, get Sheen, then Spirit Visage or Sunfire cape depending on AP or AD enemy, then finish Tri Force and get other tanky item I didn't get before and then warmogs, oh and maybe a lifesteal item to get bloodthirster sometime in the middle there.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12653 on: January 06, 2014, 12:14:48 pm »

Just floating around level 12 myself, but does anyone have tips on how to play Pantheon? I'm not bad, but I'm not amazing with him either.

On another note, Ryze is unreasonably fun to play mid against other mages.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12654 on: January 06, 2014, 12:21:13 pm »

He has a rough early game because he isn't that tanky and he doesn't do that much damage. But after a few waves you should have some 50-ish damage farmed on your Q. It doesn't sound like much, but add to that your damage and the bonus damage Q gives for a nasty punch. And combined with W and E there's really no way to escape losing a quarter of your hp, at which point you just start bullying the other guy.

This might not work for everyone, but this particular Jax wasn't all that tanky and he stupidly let me farm for the first ten minutes or so. By the time I got two kills on him I had sheen, and my single Q was chunking his HP like crazy, and funnily enough, his E doesn't work against Q :D

But yeah, with Nasus, all you really need is time. You tank up, and over time your damage grows to insane levels, this leads to silly teamfights where you just walk up to the enemy carry (who can't escape you because of W) and double tap their ass. You then switch targets and double tap their AP carry. By this time the teamfight is yours :D

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Pantheon, hehehe, that guy :D
His entire thing is early game dominance. This means that you get your runes (if you have any) and masteries to give you as much flat damage as possible. You also start with Dorans blade, or if you're feeling confident with a regular Longsword and some potions (a single mana pot is helpful). You farm at level one. Once you hit level two you can chuck a few spears every now and then. Get E for easier farming. By level three you should constantly chuck spears at the enemy (be mindful of your mana, always have enough for a W-E combo). You should have your first kill around level for or five since the enemy will be low from constant spears and attacks that you'll be able to just W-E and autoattack for the kill (passive from is really awesome for this).
This of course depends heavily on your matchup, there's several exceptions but generally you'll learn most of them from facing champions. Be agressive and constantly harass however you can if you feel your enemy can't commit to a fight. If they do, stun them and walk away. As soon as you get level six, start ganking your mid, free kills are always good.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12655 on: January 13, 2014, 06:01:45 pm »

Finally got around to playing a SR match with Jinx. She too stronk for this world. Even with a supp Nid on the other side and our Blitz alternating between AFKing in lane, missing grabs on stationary targets, feeding, taking cs, and yelling at me, I still outpoked them and got massively fed. Ended the game 13/1/6 after we wiped their team at Baron, and I was playing like a complete doofus for most of the time, doing stuff like trying to 1v1 their Riven. Something obscene like 221k damage dealt, too. I guess I know who I'm saving up for, then.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12656 on: January 15, 2014, 03:56:25 am »

Someone mentioned Pantheon? He made an appearance in last night's LCS games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqERMwyb6CY

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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12657 on: January 15, 2014, 07:49:11 am »

So Yasuo seems to be a bit OP, I really don't like how Riot just make new champions have ridiculously strong passives, the only recent one who doesn't is probably Jinx who has an interesting passive but her kit is really strong.

Yasuo though is silly, double crit chance as well as a super strong shield, that shield is much much much stronger then malphites and it can regenerate in combat, seems fairly silly. I know you can't just compare champion passives but it just seems ridiculous that he essentially has two strong passives and it's not like his kit is weak.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.14 - Preseason
« Reply #12658 on: January 15, 2014, 09:46:17 am »

They don't even make sense tbh. I could understand him having double the crit chance to further his bursty focus, or just the shield one to let him build more damage and less tank. But both? That makes zero sense.
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« Reply #12659 on: January 15, 2014, 01:19:09 pm »

Anyone want to give me some tips for playing tristana? specifically if you build BOTR or not and I always have trouble with mana while harrassing in my lane early game and survivability late game (which is probably a positioning issue)
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