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[Nistenf]

The only issue I can see with large patches and sweeping changes is the amount of stress it would put on the already fragile mess of code they use for the client. The comparatively small 1.13 patch ended with people getting more bugsplats and disconnects than normal; a larger patch even on a "just buffing and nerfing the roster" basis would end up with more disabled characters or other unforseen consequences.  I wish they'd switch to something other than Adobe Air, at least.

The game client (where you play the game itselft) has nothing to do with adobe AIR. It's only the "launcher".

[SalmonGod]

I would probably enjoy the game like 10x more if they did a sweeping ADC nerf.  The entire game feels like it's wrapped around late-game AD.  Either the game ends early, or the team with the best cover for and most powerful late-game AD wins 95% of the time.

[Skyrunner]

Maybe ADCs need to scale less dramatically, being relevant early game and still strongish (but not overwhelming like a fed Vayne) late-game... somehow.

[tompliss]

It's one of the principles, (and it is even more like this in DotA) :
each character has a different frame of power and utility, and ADC are there to provide damage in the lategame. And, of course, getting kills in the early game makes the road to lategame smaller/quicker, so many 30+ minutes focus on ADCs ...

[SalmonGod]

Yeah... I get that it's an intentional formula... but I'd like to see an attempt at an alternate formula.  This game genre is the most hardline conservative about strict adherence to an originating formula of any I've ever seen in my 28 years as a gamer.

[tompliss]

Even if it is partly from the genre, I think that LoL especially is rigid (at high level, and because "low level" players tend to think they can only win if they do the same thing that pros, at low level too).

But yeah, if you can find friends to play with, it is possible to play without using the meta, but you'll have to build the team around it, to counter it

[Skyrunner]

Y'know, assuming most of us here are pretty ok at not being stupid, I'd like to try that some time. Make some sort of trollish team that can beat meta while also being wacky, then enter blind pick and let loose the dogs from hell.

[webadict]

Y'know, assuming most of us here are pretty ok at not being stupid, I'd like to try that some time. Make some sort of trollish team that can beat meta while also being wacky, then enter blind pick and let loose the dogs from hell.

I prefer theme teams. Things like the Shadow Isles, Shuryma Desert, Yordle's Only, All ADCs, Team Doctor (My personal favorite, with Nurse Akali, Surgeon Shen, Kennen M.D., Dr. Mundo, and our pubbie wisely chose Heimerdinger), Team Ice, Team Fire, etc.

Themes are much more fun, and then you get to see how many opponents get it.

[Skyrunner]

That would be nice, too.
I almost had Team Frejlord once for solo queue, but a malzahar ruined it.

[webadict]

That would be nice, too.
I almost had Team Frejlord once for solo queue, but a malzahar ruined it.

We managed to get Anivia, Nunu, Ashe, Volibear, and... someone. I forget who, but we had a whole Frejlord team.

[Jopax]

My personal favourites are Team Never Die and the Dunk Squad. The first is possibly the most enraging thing you can face. I think it has Yorrick, Zilean, Anivia, Zac and maybe Aatrox, or someone else, not too sure. You then all take Revive and rush Guardian Angel.

Now your enemy has to kill each of you four times if they want to keep you dead for a little while.

[Chaoswizkid]

You mean The Full Revive Bungaloo?

[Skyrunner]

Oh interesting, the Korean regionals are live now. xD

You mean The Full Revive Bungaloo?

Global Team to Revive, 0:1.

[Frumple]

Sometimes...

... beginner bot game (yes, I know, shush). I go 8/0/8 on Nami, after being basically abandoned in the bottom lane. Got the team's first kill... and the second. Rest of the team is Aatrox, Rengar, Morde, and Nasus. Next highest kill stat... 5. On morde. No one else broke 3. Aatrox came away with only 1 kill, and gave up first blood ;_;

What happeeeeneeeeddddd...

[webadict]

Sometimes...

... beginner bot game (yes, I know, shush). I go 8/0/8 on Nami, after being basically abandoned in the bottom lane. Got the team's first kill... and the second. Rest of the team is Aatrox, Rengar, Morde, and Nasus. Next highest kill stat... 5. On morde. No one else broke 3. Aatrox came away with only 1 kill, and gave up first blood ;_;

What happeeeeneeeeddddd...

But... But beginner bot game?