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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11760 on: July 11, 2013, 07:44:13 am »

I know but you still build the AP tanky items on mundo. You will be getting Liandry's and Rylai's and because you need spell vamp gunblade is much better then WoTA or Spirit of Wraith.

In Summoner's Rift Mundo doesn't need spell vamp but for ARAM it's a neccessity.

Sunfire Cape, Spirit Visage, Liandry's, Rylai's, Gunblade and Boots (Merc Treads/Sorc Shoes), that's pretty much all you can build as Mundo in ARAM, Randuin's is nice and can be swapped for Rylai's but it's situational.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11761 on: July 11, 2013, 08:31:49 am »

That seems weird even to me :-\

From what I remember damage wise, Mundo wants Mpen more than AP insofar as magic damage goes -- as Salmon notes, dude's ratio is terrible. Literally the only thing that scales with AP is burning agony, and that's at 20% (which is... just horrible, s'far as I'm aware.), but magic pen helps the cleavers as well as agony.

S'been too long since I've played to offer any suggestions, though... maybe swap the rylai's out for something? Is the slow on agony really that important? Why not switch for more spellvamp (since you're apparently relying on agony for close in sustain?) or mpen? Or something to boost up the rightclick, or help the team (aegis, etc.).

Full on Mpen sounds like it'd be, what? Void, liandry, sorc boots? Maybe an abyssal, but you probably wouldn't be getting close enough to use it very often. S'not really much that offers mpen, really. Still leaves two or three slots open.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11762 on: July 11, 2013, 08:48:30 am »

Liandry and sorc boots, definitely.  After that I go by what I'm having the most trouble with.  If I'm taking too much ap damage and/or my team would benefit a lot, I'll get abyssal sceptre.  I'll only get void staff if the enemy is stacking serious magic resist.  Otherwise, I build straight tank items.  Rylai's I will by in very specific situations.  The burning agony slow is really, really nice against melee champs, because you can walk away and be near impossible for them to auto-attack because you're surrounded by a field of slow.  But otherwise, a sunfire will do way more for you than just about any amount of ap.  I'll almost always get an aegis.  Spirit Visage is a given, and usually my first full item.  Randuins if I still need more armor than sunfire/aegis is giving me.
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« Reply #11763 on: July 11, 2013, 10:14:53 am »

I like Rylai's because if gives a lot of health and it stops enemies from escaping with burning agony pretty well because of the Tenacity bonus. Void Staff I feel isn't worth it for Mundo, yes lots of mpen but Mundo is much better off being tankier.

More health on Mundo is a good thing so wasting a slot on an item that doesn't give any health or tankiness I feel isn't worth so much. Rylai's, Liandry and Gunblade work so well together and just keeping enemies still and the thing is even if enemies are stacking so much mag res you still do lots of AD and have great sustain.

I will be honest I have only had Mundo twice in ARAM but first time I did mag pen and cleaver poke build which didn't work to well especially as enemy team had lot of CC and poke, 2nd time I did W+E focus instead of Q and with spell vamp I was just sitting in fights and turrets healing up lots and tanking everything and dominated quite a lot. So much health, sustain and damage which is the trifecta I really like even in Summoner's Rift, always nice seeing the stats as most damage dealt to champs, most damage taken and most healing done
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11764 on: July 11, 2013, 10:31:06 am »

With mundo in ARAM, you're going to play on two thing : the cleaver, and one of the 2 other spells (not counting ult).
The "normal" build (the one I do :p ), with Agony, means going for AoE damage at close range.
That being said, you need to :
 - resist damage while you're between 5 ennemies.
 - slow those ennemies so they stay near you (to keep damaging them and to prevent them from attacking you allies).

So, the rilay is very good for this build, as it gives you an AoE perma-slow, increase a little your damages, and increase your HPs. As you have a slow on agony, liandry becomes really good, both for the mag-pen and the DoT.
Sorcerer boots are nearly mandatory, as they really boost you damage-dealing abilities, both ranged and melee.
3 slots left : I vote for Sunfire Cape and Abyssal, for both tanking and damaging boosting.
1 slot left : need more tanking ? get the Bulwark (don't get it as a last item, but before). Need more damage/cc ? The gunblade sems a good idea yeah (not tested myself). I don't think the lifesteal & spellvamp are that good (even with 250ad, you have low AS, and the spellvamp is only good on the cleaver, as agony is only 6% spellvamp), but all together, it may be nice...
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11765 on: July 11, 2013, 10:51:30 am »

Rylai? Can't you hit your cleavers and do you for some reason not activate your speed boost? Liandry works well enough but you should look at your team. If you need a beefy dude, delay it. Sorc shoes are cool. Spirit Visage is core on every Mundo build in the history of existing. Get it.

Visage, Sunfire, Liandrys?

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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11766 on: July 11, 2013, 02:16:43 pm »

And he can afford to focus on building health, because he still has an ability that reduces damage by a percentage to take the place of resistances.

If you're not building resistances because you have a % damage reduction, you're making a huge mistake. They stack together very well.

Also, contrary to what most people think, his health regen passive also scales very well with resistances. Yeah, you don't restore as much health as if you stack warmogs, but every point of health you restore counts for more, so it evens out. This also applies to Mundo.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11767 on: July 15, 2013, 11:02:44 am »

Ba bump CHI!

Anyways, my previous account troubles got sorted out! YAY! Now I have regained full control. Also, I just got promoted to gold one! This is really cool.

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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11768 on: July 18, 2013, 05:44:25 am »

So Spirit Guard Udyr is out, looks bloody amazing, especially the comic is awesome. I guess we can expect a couple of these every year now, should be neat.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11769 on: July 18, 2013, 08:20:46 am »

So Spirit Guard Udyr is out, looks bloody amazing, especially the comic is awesome. I guess we can expect a couple of these every year now, should be neat.

What makes me not excited is...
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11770 on: July 18, 2013, 02:53:39 pm »

TIME TO PLAY SOME UDYR

I'm not actually bad with him. This will be great.
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« Reply #11771 on: July 31, 2013, 06:28:55 am »

So latest patch is the patch of Zac top lane!

Banshee's Veil rework and Spirit Visage rework means Zac can get both of those, add in a sunfire cape and a warmogs and you are getting lots of armour, mag res and health, then add in a thornmail and you are the ultimate tank, even when being ignited the healing is insane. You have so much mag res that the AP carries can't even burst you down to 1/4 of your health and armour and sustain that the AD carries can't trade with you. The only deadly enemy is vayne but with a thornmail you can end up killing her by her trying to kill you.

late game with baron buff I had something like 350+ health regen every 5 seconds and thats without enemies hitting me which would add like 50 with banshees veil rework + spirit visage
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11772 on: July 31, 2013, 06:46:22 am »

oh wow... that spirit visage and banshee's veil... Mundo may actually be fun on ARAM again...
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« Reply #11773 on: July 31, 2013, 06:53:18 am »

mundo will be op, no need for warmogs anymore with so many high health items now.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11774 on: July 31, 2013, 08:19:33 pm »

I played Leona support just now, my partner was Draven. He wasn't very good honestly. We faced Nami and Ashe, and he kept telling me that I had to poke them because Nami is poking the shit out of him (seriously, if you don't realise that she'll fire her bubble at your axe landing spot and let that one go after five times then there's no helping you). Then a gank and a minor fight happened, one time he was out of range and Nami would've gotten away if I hadn't finished her off and the other time he died like a second before my last attack killed Ashe. He called me a dirty little killstealer.

And with his blessing I decided to not be a dirty little killstealer and left to help other lanes, like Skarner, who was actually good and withing moments we killed bot a fed Brand and Sejuani.

In the end we lost, but it was fun honestly, poking fun at that little fool that couldn't grasp the simplest of concepts. He kept calling me the killstealer, well, I say I only took what was rightfully mine :
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