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[Jopax]

Dude chill. Yes he's wrong on many accounts and doesn't understand some of the mechanics but he's only level 10 ffs, cut him some slack, don't think anyone mastered all of the game by that point.

Instead offer him some constructive ciricism as to why his choices are bad or wrong.

Also just playing one of the wierder ranked games so far. Our team is Malphite, Hecarim, Zed, Draven, Blitz while theirs is Graves, Vayne, Singed, Maokai, Wukong. I have no idea how this will unfold :S

[IronyOwl]

Yeah, just because it's the LoL thread doesn't mean we need to act like the LoL forums. Well, that was more informative than most LoL forum posts, but still.


Also, only 6/10 people in that game got boots.

...and ww has a Mejai's. I don't even.

Also just playing one of the wierder ranked games so far. Our team is Malphite, Hecarim, Zed, Draven, Blitz while theirs is Graves, Vayne, Singed, Maokai, Wukong. I have no idea how this will unfold :S

Where's everyone going?

[frostshotgg]

Yeah, I was a little harsh. It just struck too close to the same old "Yi is OP" you get from someone before level 30 that I've spent hours trying to explain reasonably before.

[Sonlirain]

Yeah, I was a little harsh. It just struck too close to the same old "Yi is OP" you get from someone before level 30 that I've spent hours trying to explain reasonably before.

And why do you think YI is not ridiculously OP?
He's so OP i uninstalled LoL after i bought him because it won the game and had nothing to do anymore.

[tomas1297]

And why do you think YI is not ridiculously OP?

AP Yi gets his burst off and becomes useless between cooldowns. Gets fed in lane, carries games, yes, however 1)6 items Yi is much weaker than most other champions with 6 items and 2)A good player won't feed in lane - as soon as he sees that he's losing, he will play a lot more defensively.
 AD Yi deals more damage than AP Yi in late game, however his heal is way weaker than AP Yi and a good team will simply burst him down before he does any real damage. 
 And both AD and AP Yi have a few shared weaknesses:
 1) The heal can be interrupted very easily - in ranked, players will usually be smart enough to get stuns/knockups specifically for Yi. And most of these stuns/knockups will have shorter cooldowns than Yi's heal.
 2) Fiora syndrome - firstly, Yi has no CC in a game where CC is very important and second, Yi needs to get close to deal damage, but doesn't have the tankiness to survive in the range where he is the most effective. Building tanky? Tanks in LoL are supposed to be the ones that can remain useful even without building damage - Nautilus, Maokai and so on have lots of CC, Shen and Rammus can force enemies to target them instead of the carries , Renekton hurts even without building AD. A "melee carry" such as Yi will benefit much less from tanky items since he is built around the idea of dealing lots of damage with lots of items.

 I could probably say more, but I think I said enough and I'm not really that experienced. I was around level 21 in EUNE, then moved to NA and almost reached silver (I know I could, so I count myself as silver) and moved to EUW where I am still lv15-ish. It's odd now seeing all those Yi players. In ranked, even as low as Bronze I, most players considered Yi a weak champion.
 Put simply, Yi is newbstomper. He depends more on the opponents lack of skill than the players skill. Which is why he's only effective in low level games. If someone on my team feeds Yi, there's not much I can do. But when I lane against a Yi, even if he ens up with more cs, I consider myself the winner of the lane because I know that if I didn't feed him kills, I will end up more useful than him.
 Also, it seems to me that low level players can't organize a decent 5vs5 fight. Which is where Yi's weakness becomes the most obvious.

 Goddamnit, now I need to play LoL, I took such a long break from it.

edit: Oh god, I remembered why I had to take a break, low level games are so bad.

[Sonlirain]

WALL OF TEXT

Yi has only one weakness.
He's a Melee AD champ.
Badum tish.

[ansontan2000]

Well, I just had 5 games as TF
What. The. Flying. Fuck.
Assassinating AD carries and AP mids has never been easier, like come ON.

[Graven]

End of the line, though, Alex Ich and Diamondprox consider Yi an OP mid.

[Jopax]

Mostly because he gets off free harass while negating any and all harass you might throw at him. It's just too easy for him to reatreat to the tower and heal up while throwing out Q's when he's got HP to spare.

Barring some special cases you can't really push him out of the lane while he can quite easily push you out if you're not careful and play conservatively, and even then if you're short ranged you're shafted either way because you have to get close to farm, and if you do he'll just Q you.

Aatrox has a very similar problem right now, he's nigh impossible to push out of the lane because of his incredible sustain. He can harass you all he wants again because of his hp based abilities while having incredible sustain, and if you do decide to go all in and kill him you'd have to kill the bastard twice.

[frostshotgg]

The downside is that any amount of CC turns A-Aron off because he's suffering from melee carry-itis.

[Jopax]

Which is true of pretty much all solo top champs really, and the few exceptions that exist have some sort of ranged capability. And even if you do CC you can either run or try to kill him, and running is the smarter option honestly unless you've got a big advantage over him and/or he's got his passive on CD.

Edit:

I love it when two retards are hellbent on getting their own in a ranked game ruining it for others. I also love how if I dodge that shit it counts as a loss in my promotional series. The fuckers.

[tomas1297]

 Just saw the new Darius skin.

Spoiler: Pic. (click to show/hide)

 It is gorgeous.

[penguinofhonor]

YI REWORK, summary below

Aesthetic: Upgrades on everything. Better model with some moderate tweaks (keeping all the classic Yi stuff like swordboots), better animations, new voice lines (same voice actor though).

Passive: Now gives you an extra attack every fourth hit for 50% damage. The double strike now has a duration of a few seconds to prevent people from "priming" a double strike. It now functions basically like Jax's ultimate's passive.
Q: Scales with AD instead of AP and can mini-crit based on your crit stats. Autoattacks now reduce the cooldown. You can no longer crit minions and monsters, and the ability's behavior sounds like it will be a little less wonky overall.
W: Gives % damage reduction instead of armor/MR and heals more at low HP.
E: Passive gives an extra percent of your AD (think Zed). Active makes your attacks deal a percent of your total AD in true damage.
R: The reset has become a passive ability, but it no longer resets itself. It does increase its duration if you get a kill or assist with it active.

[Neonivek]

It is gorgeous.

Is Darius supposed to be human?

[Jopax]

Glad to see they're working to get rid of annoying builds. Now if they'd get rid of all the idiots, trolls and retards that plague ranked I'd be good to go. Can't have a normal match, at all. It's always one or more people who either HAVE TO HAVE THEIR WAY or simply stay silent and pick whatever the fuck they want :I