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[penguinofhonor]

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[Kalemyr Skyfire]

Quinn's skillset seems awesome.

There's one thing bothering me, where does Quinn go when swapped with Valor? She just disappears...

[IronyOwl]

Had the weirdest game today.

You could tell it was going to be unusual right from the start, because there were several seconds of silence in the lobby. Nobody called anything or selected champs, they just kind of sat there. So finally I call top because I've been hankering for some Urgot but was under the impression that he wasn't really an adc.

So okay, everyplace else gets filled up, we've got Karthus mid, there's a Sona and Ezreal, last guy was amused by me going top and decides to go top as Thresh. Then Ezreal switches to and locks in Kat, everyone goes wait wat, game starts.

So loading screen time, the enemy team has a Corki, Singed, Cassiopeia, Katarina, and Nocturne. Both the Kat and Nocturne have smite. As I mention once the game starts, "At least the enemy team is as confused as we are."

Singed somehow ends up bot with Corki, while their Katarina goes mid. Thresh decides to switch places with Kat, who was of course bot by default, so we end up Kat/Urgot top, Karthus vs Kat mid, Sona/Kat vs Corki/Singed bot. When we push to their tower, Nocturne shows up with buffs on to defend top.

Finally their Cass reconnects and takes over top while their Nocturne resumes jungling, our Katarina I guess decides top is boring or that she can't get farm or doesn't want to steal mine and begins roaming around but usually hanging out bot with Sona and Thresh. Thresh lols at our adc (me) being top and laments being an adc himself but having only assists, not kills. Much roaming and strangeness was had, and we eventually won.


That's probably not a very vivid description, but it was very odd and fairly interesting. It's also emboldened me to try to play Urgot bot more often.

[frostshotgg]

Err... Thresh isn't an AD, just for the record. His auto is nice for attacking champs, but the timing on it is *really* weird for last hitting. I've tried it, didn't work out.
That said, I wish I could have games like that more often. It's nice when meta isn't a thing and you can just kinda do whatever and nobody rages.

[Jopax]

Thresh is pretty cool as this tanky bastard who dishes out tons of CC and some decent damage if you build him a BT and an Atma along with the tons of hp and resists

The Q passive is especially funny for freaking out people as it does about 600-700 magic damage once farmed up properly, most people freak out since they don't see Thresh as a true damage dealer and will mostly try to run after that, that's when the CC takes effect and pretty much ruins their day

[Graven]

LCS going on again, Giants vs Evil Geniuses right now : http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames?utm_campaign=live_embed_click&utm_source=guardsmanbob.com

Coincidentally EG still the most horrible pro-team in the world.

[Jar of Jam]

Thresh is pretty cool as this tanky bastard who dishes out tons of CC and some decent damage if you build him a BT and an Atma along with the tons of hp and resists

The Q passive is especially funny for freaking out people as it does about 600-700 magic damage once farmed up properly, most people freak out since they don't see Thresh as a true damage dealer and will mostly try to run after that, that's when the CC takes effect and pretty much ruins their day

So you play him as top bruiser / ad carry ?

[Jopax]

Yeah, the few games I played him I never once go bot to support

Also fucking troll weekend man, haven't won the last few games all due to how stuipd some people like to be or how much they enjoy ruining games for others. I mean, is it too much to ask for a few normal matches so I can brush up on my Urgot play? Apparently yes, because I've been forced to support (even though I called adc first) and when I refusd the offending asshole went afk. Then the match right after that one we get a premade claiming bot right away with Fiddle and Yorrick, and completely losing it to Draven/Nunu.  Seriously people, stop it, you're confirming all the talk that MOBA communities are the worst :C

[frostshotgg]

You could try midgot.

[IronyOwl]

Err... Thresh isn't an AD, just for the record. His auto is nice for attacking champs, but the timing on it is *really* weird for last hitting. I've tried it, didn't work out.
That said, I wish I could have games like that more often. It's nice when meta isn't a thing and you can just kinda do whatever and nobody rages.

Thresh is pretty cool as this tanky bastard who dishes out tons of CC and some decent damage if you build him a BT and an Atma along with the tons of hp and resists

The Q passive is especially funny for freaking out people as it does about 600-700 magic damage once farmed up properly, most people freak out since they don't see Thresh as a true damage dealer and will mostly try to run after that, that's when the CC takes effect and pretty much ruins their day

I've been wondering about this. He doesn't seem like he'd make a good AD, but everyone seems to want to play him that way.

I also once saw someone build him AS and do fairly well, but I'm not sure if that's because it's viable or just because we were winning anyway.

Yeah, the few games I played him I never once go bot to support

Also fucking troll weekend man, haven't won the last few games all due to how stuipd some people like to be or how much they enjoy ruining games for others. I mean, is it too much to ask for a few normal matches so I can brush up on my Urgot play? Apparently yes, because I've been forced to support (even though I called adc first) and when I refusd the offending asshole went afk. Then the match right after that one we get a premade claiming bot right away with Fiddle and Yorrick, and completely losing it to Draven/Nunu.  Seriously people, stop it, you're confirming all the talk that MOBA communities are the worst :C

Aw, poor Urgot. :<

You could try midgot.

See, this I never want to do because usually it means we'd lack an AP. Lacking a totally genuine adc shouldn't be too much of an issue since most top/mids tend to want to build aggressively anyway and supposedly Urgot is excellent at shutting down the actual adc he's laning against, but we'd need some kind of coordination or something to fill that AP slot.

That said, it does please me that Urgot can fit into almost any lane.

[webadict]

Err... Thresh isn't an AD, just for the record. His auto is nice for attacking champs, but the timing on it is *really* weird for last hitting. I've tried it, didn't work out.
That said, I wish I could have games like that more often. It's nice when meta isn't a thing and you can just kinda do whatever and nobody rages.

You use the word meta, but I don't think you truly understand what it means. The meta can't NOT be a thing. You can conform to the meta, but you can't just not have it exist. Also, you can always choose not to conform to it. I don't see the problem. You act like it's a nice thing to break away from this metagame that goes on, but you can literally do it any and every game. It's like you've decided that this meta thing enslaves you for no reason.

So, what we all need to do is stop whining about a "stale" meta. I mean, what's holding you to it? The correct answer is you. No one's stopping you from picking Heimerdinger + Karma bot lane. However, that does not mean you'll win. In fact, you'll probably lose. Conforming to the meta happens because it has proven results for winning.

So.

Seriously.

STOP.

SAYING.

STALE META.

[frostshotgg]

It's not that it's stale. It's the 80% of NA refuses to vary even slightly from what the pros do, or at least what they think pros do. If you do something even slightly different your team refuses to cooperate, and if your team won't cooperate, then you're guaranteed to lose.
So yes, I suppose it's not the meta's fault. It's 80% of NA that's the problem.

[Graven]

Gambit doing Vlad Volibear Kass Kogmaw Sona. Might be taking Wolves a bit too lightly, but hey, should be a fun game anyway.

http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames/new

[Jopax]

Urgot is more of an anti carry as many people say, he's not an adc in the truest sense, but he's such, that if played well the other team won't have a real carry either. And if you're having midgot you can always send an AP top, Vlad or Elise work wonders up there.

Anyways, Gambit still sucks ass, not sure why still but hey, it could be worse, it could be one of those many games that goes on and on and on and is still a curbstomp, seriously, if you have a 10k gold advantage baron and a bunch of other stuff really why the fuck do you insist on dragging it out any longer, WHYYYY?!?!?

[Korbac]

It's not that it's stale. It's the 80% of NA refuses to vary even slightly from what the pros do, or at least what they think pros do. If you do something even slightly different your team refuses to cooperate, and if your team won't cooperate, then you're guaranteed to lose.
So yes, I suppose it's not the meta's fault. It's 80% of NA that's the problem.

This is slightly less of a problem in DOTA, where the meta is very vague / nonspecific at the moment.

Please don't kill me