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[frostshotgg]

Vayne counters herself. I've yet to see a (not pro) player who doesn't hurr her durr and rush PD because "oh yeah attack speed so op on her"

[Techhead]

One problem with AS/Tank is there is only one AS item that grant health, armor, or magic resist, Wit's End. And the best AS item is Runaan's hurricane, which is paying for a Passive that Vayne won't use unless she buys AD or On-hit.

[penguinofhonor]

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[Jopax]

So what do you do when you're stuck with a good champion but a horrible teammate?

Yes Darius you might have been our TC and banned some good champs (but Yorrick was absolutely not one of them) but afterwards you have been nothing but an ass and a detriment to the teams succes. Asked to build tank because the team is kinda squishy? Nope he goes his merry way of building 'zerk greaves and some FM components but never actually finishing them. Oh and he also somehow lost top to Singed, which caused the issue of roaming Singed with RoA before the tenth minute to surface, afterwards it all kind of spiralled out of control.

This was my first placement match for advancing into the third tier of the league. Oh and the guy who plays Darius is in the second tier for some reason :I

[IronyOwl]

Vayne counters herself. I've yet to see a (not pro) player who doesn't hurr her durr and rush PD because "oh yeah attack speed so op on her"

I generally go longsword and two pots, build that into a vamp scepter, get zerkers, finish BT, then go PD. Couldn't swear that's ideal, but it seems to work well.

I just realized we're going to finally have a champion for every letter of the alphabet.

Great, now I'm going to have to make a rhyming dictionary of (some of) them.

A is for Annie with stunned shock and awe,
B is for Blitzcrank the big grabber claw,
C is for Caitlyn with a versatile gun,
D is for Darius who won't let you run,
E is for Ezreal of both dash and harry,
F is for Fiora of both lunge and parry,
G is for Gangplank who slows and speeds, harms and mends,
H is for Heimerdinger who builds plenty of friends.

So what do you do when you're stuck with a good champion but a horrible teammate?

Win and listen to them talk about how they carried you guys or lose and hear about how awful you guys were, mostly.

Other than that, try talking to them gently. Jackasses can sometimes be at least vaguely guided in the right direction with enough effort and patience, even if they don't totally change or verbally acknowledge it. Harsher suggestions or observations will usually fail, no matter (and in some cases directly inversely proportionate to) how correct they are.

This was my first placement match for advancing into the third tier of the league. Oh and the guy who plays Darius is in the second tier for some reason :I

Good technical skills but being a hindrance to the rest of the team is a common combination, sadly. Same with behaviors that either work really well or fail really hard and doing something that usually works but refusing to do anything different when that stops being true. He's probably an awesome Darius when everything lines up for him, but doesn't understand what goes wrong when it doesn't.

Alternatively, sometimes people just have really off games. I wouldn't think that's quite as applicable for being a dick, though.

[penguinofhonor]

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[Kalemyr Skyfire]

lunar revellllll

It's nice to know they have a counterpart for the holidays.

[The13thRonin]

Why is it ALWAYS the worst player on the team that thinks he knows everything?

Our Jax fed one of the enemy champions 5 times before the ten minute mark and then he wonders why we all keep dying to her...

[Orangebottle]

So what do you do when you're stuck with a good champion but a horrible teammate?

Yes Darius you might have been our TC and banned some good champs (but Yorrick was absolutely not one of them) but afterwards you have been nothing but an ass and a detriment to the teams succes. Asked to build tank because the team is kinda squishy? Nope he goes his merry way of building 'zerk greaves and some FM components but never actually finishing them. Oh and he also somehow lost top to Singed, which caused the issue of roaming Singed with RoA before the tenth minute to surface, afterwards it all kind of spiralled out of control.

This was my first placement match for advancing into the third tier of the league. Oh and the guy who plays Darius is in the second tier for some reason :I

This sounds like a game I was playing as Singed recently. Did the singed top happen to have the augmented skin?

[Jopax]

Nah, just a regular Singed, the rest of their team was a pretty good Cassio, a jungling Lee, and I think Caitlyn and someone else on bot :S

Second match played and lost, the start was a bit shaky (well a lot shaky) but we were on a rebound when our Vi decided it would be fun to leave, then we struggled for 20 minutes, doing pretty good at times, but alas, there wasn't much we could do :C

[penguinofhonor]

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[Jopax]

Also to chime in on the Vayne discussion, she only needs like three items to do crazy damage (BT,Inf and PD) the two empty slots can easily go Warmog/GA making her also rather hard to kill unless explicitly focused, or for extra lulz go for a Frozen Mallet and watch as nothing can ever escape you and you're still harder to kill than usually.

[Techhead]

BT, Inf, PD might be the default three carry items, but BotRK might be better than BT in her anti-tank role.

[frostshotgg]

I disagree. BotRK is somewhat of a noob-trap for ranged ADs. The only AD I can think of to reccomend it on is Graves.

[Jopax]

Yeah, without the active it's a pretty meh item, and to use as a ranged adc you need to be dangerously close to the hurty parts of the fight. It could be used when running away but really if you have any kiting skill there's no need for a single use 60 second (?) CD kite that might or might not end up putting you in a worse position than before.

Same thing goes for Gunblade but that one is by nature more geared towards Kata/Jax who will naturally be in the thick of it and thus be in a better position to use the active.