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[Kalemyr Skyfire]

I wonder how much she will cost, probably the same as Thresh.

[Graven]

AFAIK all new champions cost 7k on release week, then go for the usual 6300 the week after.

edit : or is it 7800? Same as Thresh on release.

[penguinofhonor]

Yeah, that's confirmed. Every single new champion will be 7800 then 6300 after a week. No more wondering is necessary.

In related news, let's check out the upcoming champ price reductions! When Quinn is released, Leona will be reduced to 4800. When the champion after Quinn is released, Wukong will be reduced to 4800 and one 4800 will be reduced to below that, based on ease of use and/or age. Personally I think it'll be Brand, Caitlyn, or Miss Fortune.

[frostshotgg]

The one getting further price reduction can be any price, at Riot's discretion. An age old 1350 might get reduced to 450, like Annie did not-so-long ago.

[Jopax]

Who was discounted with Thresh?

I didn't notice any info and haven't trawled trough the shop in a while so I have no idea who got discounted if anyone :S

[penguinofhonor]

The one getting further price reduction can be any price, at Riot's discretion. An age old 1350 might get reduced to 450, like Annie did not-so-long ago.

Oh, I misread that. Well dang, it could be anyone.

Who was discounted with Thresh?

Yorick.

Additional note: keep up on these, because their pre-announced status means nobody gets refunds if they buy the champion right before their price goes down.

[Jar of Jam]

Who was discounted with Thresh?

Yorick.

Yorick and Udyr.

[IronyOwl]

GSG vs CJ Entus in the NLB Winter Final Match

This game is too awesome.

This made me shit rainbows.

This was indeed glorious. And thanks for the in-depth analysis too, web.


Also, what does it mean when your adc is autoattacking creep waves early game? Is that just a thing that happens sometimes, or something that happens when you play with people who suck, or what? Happened the last two games, all game, and now I'm really curious. Neither of them were forced into it either, though I think top and mid might have been gone.

EDIT: Also have I mentioned I love Vayne so very, very much? All you have to do is avoid damage entirely and you become a ruthless butcher at your third item, boots included.

[Knirisk]

Every...sniff...time I play Leona or Blitzcrank support, and I get an honor from my ADC...

I shine just a little brighter._{on the inside}

[penguinofhonor]

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[Jopax]

Oh yeah, I got my teamwork ribbon last night, I was alt+tabbed while logging in so the sound kinda freaked me out X)

[Sharp]

Also, what does it mean when your adc is autoattacking creep waves early game? Is that just a thing that happens sometimes, or something that happens when you play with people who suck, or what? Happened the last two games, all game, and now I'm really curious. Neither of them were forced into it either, though I think top and mid might have been gone.

EDIT: Also have I mentioned I love Vayne so very, very much? All you have to do is avoid damage entirely and you become a ruthless butcher at your third item, boots included.

Lane control is an interesting aspect in LoL, the normal meta for adc's is just last hit to keep minions in middle but if you are pushing a lane it can yield advantages, if your an aggressive lane then clearing enemy minions or pushing the lane back a bit can give you more control of the bot bushes which can also allow in-lane ganks from your team, it also can mean less minion damage if you do choose to engage.

Then there is pushing wave back to enemy tower, this usually results in less farm for the enemy as tower takes kills though does leave bot vulnerable to ganks but warding can stop it. If top and mid have gone then it's better to push while you can because bot will be the next target so you can delay it by pushing back the creep wave.

And Vayne is OP, doing true damage as % of enemies health is completely uncounterable, she is destroyer of tanks and then her invisible rolling around means she can kite in the middle of a teamfight. Good Vayne's are deadly as hell even if they lose lane completely in early game, late game they can still destroy anyone.

Maybe I should go Tank/AS Vayne top...

[Sirian]

Edit : Nevermind

[webadict]

GSG vs CJ Entus in the NLB Winter Final Match

This game is too awesome.

This made me shit rainbows.

This was indeed glorious. And thanks for the in-depth analysis too, web.


Also, what does it mean when your adc is autoattacking creep waves early game? Is that just a thing that happens sometimes, or something that happens when you play with people who suck, or what? Happened the last two games, all game, and now I'm really curious. Neither of them were forced into it either, though I think top and mid might have been gone.

EDIT: Also have I mentioned I love Vayne so very, very much? All you have to do is avoid damage entirely and you become a ruthless butcher at your third item, boots included.

No problem.

On autoattacking, sometimes you want to push a lane hard. Certain champions have issues last hitting under tower, though not typically ADCs. For an ADC to push, there should be some overall goal behind it, such as they are in a 2v1 lane (Get the tower down faster), they have lots of poke (Harass under tower), and/or to make the jungler's life miserable (Remove pressure from other lanes).

Now, this doesn't always work, and it's not necessarily better to AA in all of these situations. Sometimes, you're better off just zoning. It's best to know when that is. I'm not experienced enough to tell you when these cases apply, but I will say you're usually better off taking the tower. Less towers = less vision, and that makes games.

[IronyOwl]

And Vayne is OP, doing true damage as % of enemies health is completely uncounterable, she is destroyer of tanks and then her invisible rolling around means she can kite in the middle of a teamfight. Good Vayne's are deadly as hell even if they lose lane completely in early game, late game they can still destroy anyone.

Maybe I should go Tank/AS Vayne top...

Theoretically healing would counter it, but yeah, that's not gonna be common or powerful enough to be feasible. You basically counter her the same way you counter Nasus- never let her farm, and end the game before she spirals completely out of control. At least she's really squishy.

I would also love to play Vayne top, but it seems kind of redundant, since I can't imagine her not functioning as a carry anyway. Then again, GP and Teemo have some of that going on, and I suppose top works out beautifully for them. Never tried building her tanky either, would be curious how that turns out.


Speaking of which, does anyone know a proper tankplank build? I generally just end up critplanking him, mainly because I have no idea what would be good on him defensivewise other than a warmog's.