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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10935 on: February 02, 2013, 09:32:36 am »


In addition, it can branch off into Triforce or Frozen Mallet, depending on whichever one you need. Although, the early phage is probably still a relic from Season 2. The same guides recommending an early phage would probably recommend an early brutalizer now instead.



This is the core of it, I think. Both Triforce and Frozen Mallet are very powerful, but expensive. Grabbing a brutalizer early means you either need to pick up a phage later, meaning you get your strong items later as well, or you need to go for the Black Cleaver or Youmuu's Ghostblade, but neither of those give you the same defense as Trinity Force or Frozen Mallet.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10936 on: February 02, 2013, 12:23:24 pm »

So I played two ranked games yesterday, S3 starting and all that. First game we got stomped hard, still not sure what happened, I lost top to Jax (was Vi), it was easy at first but at a certain point he could just outburstme and afterward I would either run or die. Our Lux somehow horribly lost mid to Ryze (seriously, how does that even happen, he claimed that he can't aim that well (WHY WOULD HE PLAY LUX THEN!?!?!)).
Don't mess with Ryze, man.

Just because Lux has an advantage on him does not mean she'll win. If he gets an advantage on her, she might get knocked out for good.

Don't act like you auto-win with Lux against Ryze. I never trust any match-up against Ryze.

Trist's early game is frankly one of the strongest in the game. Her burst is just completely absurd. If she's been doing her job and dropping e on you at every chance, she can towerdive you at level 6, get a kill or two, and then hop out and keep on farming.
Her crutch is her mid game. Her burst falls off, and she isn't at her unkillable 700 range + knockback + jump mode yet.

I'm not saying she has a bad early (although it depends a lot on her support), but i'm just saying that since AD is cheaper now, any champion with AD scaling (like graves, caitlyn, ezreal...) will have an easier time compared to before, but not trist. Also, she doesn't have that great of a range early on, so she can't poke with her AA as much as some others.

So basically i'm not saying she's bad (she's still my main for a reason), i'm just saying that, compared to Season 2, she has lost some power, so she's in a relatively weaker position. Heck, she's the second last AD carry for win rate on LoLking (just a bit above vayne, i guess this one suffered the most from the nerf to AS).

Or, i don't know, maybe it's just my imagination. But I've been playing her A LOT, so i'm fairly confident in my analysis.
Trist's scaling is her AA and AS steroid. That's how she scales. Her burst is magic damage, which doesn't scale, so it's sort of set at a certain position, but that damage is fairly high, which is why she's so destructive early (no one has extra physical damage) and late game (she's got her long range and AS, and skills aren't doing nearly that much anymore). Mid game everyone has high AD but low AS, but that makes them more reliant on their spells, which Trist is falling off on at that point. This means she's really reliant on her Q and building AD or she's doing very low damage.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10937 on: February 02, 2013, 01:35:31 pm »

Yeah, but you can atleast stay alive even if you're denied a bit of farm. He just kept dying, over and over again. The least he could do is snare the fucker and hightail it out of there.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10938 on: February 02, 2013, 07:22:43 pm »

Yeah, but you can atleast stay alive even if you're denied a bit of farm. He just kept dying, over and over again. The least he could do is snare the fucker and hightail it out of there.
You'd be surprised. Surpryzed indeed. Ryze is a natural bully, and he'll do his best to push you away from farm, especially with an early lead. If you get too close... You're getting hit by his full combo.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10939 on: February 02, 2013, 07:47:42 pm »

Yeah, but you can atleast stay alive even if you're denied a bit of farm. He just kept dying, over and over again. The least he could do is snare the fucker and hightail it out of there.
You'd be surprised. Surpryzed indeed. Ryze is a natural bully, and he'll do his best to push you away from farm, especially with an early lead. If you get too close... You're getting hit by his full combo.

LB=Ryze but worse... HOPE YOU LIKE MASSIVE OMFG SO MUCH DAMAGE+Snare+silence+OLOLOLOL cant catch me. Seriously, been having so much fun with LB. Karthus goes mid? Pushes? Hope you like dying evey time you leav the tower. Also do pretty good against most "Anti-Mages" like talon. Also, dont say "wait 20 min. Yeah, hope you like anyone I choose dying as soon as team teamfight starts XD. Don't need health, just positioning, and brains. Though I do build the mask thing, the first level of it, first. Dont remember the name off the top of my head. Don't mess with LB man :P

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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10940 on: February 02, 2013, 08:04:28 pm »

Pffft!

PFFFFT!!!! I say!

I prefer my gibbing damage to be AoE, that's why I play Xerath >:3

If I get mid, and get to ban assholes like Kata or Kassadin I can pretty much murderize whoever comes mid, provided that they don't get babysitted by their jungler. After that it's just proceeding to power up until I can PEW PEW PEW the enemy team as soon as a teamfight erupts :>
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10941 on: February 02, 2013, 08:59:54 pm »

Pffft!

PFFFFT!!!! I say!

I prefer my gibbing damage to be AoE, that's why I play Xerath >:3

If I get mid, and get to ban assholes like Kata or Kassadin I can pretty much murderize whoever comes mid, provided that they don't get babysitted by their jungler. After that it's just proceeding to power up until I can PEW PEW PEW the enemy team as soon as a teamfight erupts :>

Cant Pew Pew If your silenced. :P

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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10942 on: February 02, 2013, 09:06:24 pm »

Can't silence if you're stunned on the other side of the lane :P

(which is inevitably followed by PEW PEW PEW)
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10943 on: February 02, 2013, 10:31:29 pm »

Protip: Xerath is a great counter to LeBlanc, specifically because he has long range aoe. All he does is press q and then LB's sitting at her tower crying because she can't farm to save her life.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10944 on: February 02, 2013, 10:54:08 pm »

Protip: Xerath is a great counter to LeBlanc, specifically because he has long range aoe. All he does is press q and then LB's sitting at her tower crying because she can't farm to save her life.

Morgana is a good counter. Spellshield AND pushing power. All she has to do is push the wave to the tower with her W and she auto-wins the lane.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10945 on: February 02, 2013, 11:17:09 pm »

Xearath is not a counter, when you have a gap closer(W). Morgana, annoying. Just gank side lanes for kills sine she won't  die.

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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10946 on: February 02, 2013, 11:58:34 pm »

So turns out Vayne vs Vayne early games are really fun. Lots of rolling and counterrolling, trading shots but not so much going in for the kill, at least with Lulu/Nidalee supports.

Then I got overaggressive, other Vayne got fed, entire team got hunted down like animals. >_>
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10947 on: February 03, 2013, 12:06:17 am »

Xearath is not a counter, when you have a gap closer(W). Morgana, annoying. Just gank side lanes for kills sine she won't  die.
Xerath is definitely a counter, when your w is barely enough to get you in range to cast Q, never mind safely land E. He can still kill you at level 6 though, even if you can't.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10948 on: February 03, 2013, 12:15:48 am »

Xearath is not a counter, when you have a gap closer(W). Morgana, annoying. Just gank side lanes for kills sine she won't  die.

That's the thing. LB can't gank sidelanes because Morgana will have complete vision due to friendly minions over the lane. Any attempts to leave the lane will promptly result in a "LB mia" since she's not actually attacking LB, so LB should have little reason to leave the lane and little gold to leave the lane with. LB can only attempt to brutally murder Morgana, hopefully with ganks, but a decent Morgana will have a spellshield up in half a second if LeBlanc or the jungler tries anything. Of course, there's still the potential to lvl 6 burst down Morgana, so there's a chance for LeBlanc, but really, the Morgana just has to play safe like Morgana is known for.

Or, I guess that the sidelanes could be completely not paying attention to Morgana's warnings and just feed LB kills, but hopefully not because that's just bad play on their part.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #10949 on: February 03, 2013, 02:56:16 am »

Protip: Xerath is a great counter to LeBlanc, specifically because he has long range aoe. All he does is press q and then LB's sitting at her tower crying because she can't farm to save her life.

I'm not sure "you can outplay Leblanc as Xerath" necessarily means he's a counter to her.
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