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Author Topic: League of Legends - Patch 7.22 - Runes Reforged  (Read 1286992 times)

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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Preseason Balance Update 2
« Reply #10875 on: January 20, 2013, 03:05:47 pm »

Elise is kinda in a weird place right now. She's hard to play right, and she doesn't bring a whole lot to the team. Not a ton of damage, not a ton of utility. She just kinda is.
If I remember correctly, the fastest clear award goes to a lucky Master Yi, his problem being that he slows down a ton if he doesn't get lucky with his Q. The runner up is either Olaf or Zed, I'm not sure. But if Olaf wants to clear fast, he basically has to empty his mana bar and keep blue instead of donating it, and Zed has to build pure damage if he wants to keep his clear times up.

I just shove her into the same category as Darius, Trynd, etc. mostly fit into. Pubstomper. Her Q makes me rage with its damage, though. Both in and out of spider form. But yeah, she excels in laning phase, but she's kinda wonky in teamfights, I guess. Personally, I'm wondering if we won't see more of her in the professional scene when they figure her out better, much like Jayce. She feels pretty strong.
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« Reply #10876 on: January 20, 2013, 03:10:28 pm »

Elise is kinda in a weird place right now. She's hard to play right, and she doesn't bring a whole lot to the team. Not a ton of damage, not a ton of utility. She just kinda is.

Elise jungle isn't too bad but she is much better in lane. She does do a ton of damage and her Q is crazy, human form Q bam 8% of your health gone and once your low, spider form, bam 8% of your missing health she has low mana costs and because she starts with a nidalee ult which means in spider form she gets no mana cost she has crazy sustain with a bit of spellvamp. Great at taking out tanks and great at executing low health champs.

She has the troll-dodge ability like Vlad and Fizz so great at making enemy waste ulti and also great for juking and even then when in spider forms she has her spiderlings to eat any skill shots.

Early game Elise can easily boss a lane and she can do a huge amount of damage in a short time. She has anti-tank, executioner, stun, escape, dash attack, AoE and minions all while having huge sustain, saying she has not a ton of utility is absurd, I don't think there is any other champion with as much utility.
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« Reply #10877 on: January 20, 2013, 03:19:35 pm »

Elise has crap ganks. Human form is made for constant, steady Q harass so eventually you can pounce on them when they get low. That's impossible in the jungle.
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« Reply #10878 on: January 20, 2013, 04:14:15 pm »

Elise actually does do a ton of damage if built right, and her ganking isn't that bad. She is better in lane, though.

Try Malady Elise, tons a damage.
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« Reply #10879 on: January 20, 2013, 04:40:00 pm »

so...annoying at times...I'd love to play mid or top lane...however 80% of games I play I end up playing support...but it can be funny to play support hiemerdinger and essentially have free wards with his turrets...
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« Reply #10880 on: January 20, 2013, 05:16:49 pm »

so...annoying at times...I'd love to play mid or top lane...however 80% of games I play I end up playing support...but it can be funny to play support hiemerdinger and essentially have free wards with his turrets...
Why do you have to play support?
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« Reply #10881 on: January 20, 2013, 05:23:59 pm »

He types slowly and isn't enough of an asshole to argue with people who had dibs. Especially bad are the people who argue and then lock in anyways when the rest of the team support the guy who rightfully got dibs, they can die in a fire.
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« Reply #10882 on: January 20, 2013, 05:47:16 pm »

League is 60% picking the same character again and 50% picking a character to back your team.
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« Reply #10883 on: January 20, 2013, 07:20:49 pm »

so...annoying at times...I'd love to play mid or top lane...however 80% of games I play I end up playing support...but it can be funny to play support hiemerdinger and essentially have free wards with his turrets...
Why do you have to play support?
Well, someone has to play support and it usually ends up being the most polite player.
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« Reply #10884 on: January 20, 2013, 08:13:36 pm »

Elise is kinda in a weird place right now. She's hard to play right, and she doesn't bring a whole lot to the team. Not a ton of damage, not a ton of utility. She just kinda is.
If I remember correctly, the fastest clear award goes to a lucky Master Yi, his problem being that he slows down a ton if he doesn't get lucky with his Q. The runner up is either Olaf or Zed, I'm not sure. But if Olaf wants to clear fast, he basically has to empty his mana bar and keep blue instead of donating it, and Zed has to build pure damage if he wants to keep his clear times up.

Elise is a very strong top laner right now. That's why her Q is getting nerfs next patch, the damage it does is crazy.
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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Preseason Balance Update 2
« Reply #10885 on: January 20, 2013, 08:28:18 pm »

You can't base a champion off of one skill though, there needs to be a full kit and it needs to have some cohesion. Even Blitzcrank, the king of one-trick ponies, still needs the rest of his shit to be as amazing as he is. Even a debuff at the end of his W that he used to have made him much much weaker than he is now.
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« Reply #10886 on: January 20, 2013, 09:48:11 pm »

Speaking from about 1000 elo, apparently first pick is best. People take solo lanes even when someone else calls it then get countered and feed... ELO hell.....

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« Reply #10887 on: January 20, 2013, 11:10:37 pm »

First things first, Elo is a name, not an acronym. Just a bit of semantics for ya.
Seriously, first things first, Elo hell isn't a thing. There are about a million different pieces of math proving it. In the end, the enemy team is much more likely to get a raging faggot than you are.
Additionally, countering doesn't matter as much as people think it does, especially at that low of a level. There are matchups like Leblanc v Galio that are absurdly hard to pull off, but those are the vast minority.
Finally, yes, in ranked, first pick is the best. Pick order in ranked goes by Elo.
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« Reply #10888 on: January 21, 2013, 12:24:32 am »

Additionally, countering doesn't matter as much as people think it does, especially at that low of a level. There are matchups like Leblanc v Galio that are absurdly hard to pull off, but those are the vast minority.

Countering makes things a damn sight easier. For me, anyway. When I play Kassadin, I really like fighting Akali. It's just...so fun.
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« Reply #10889 on: January 21, 2013, 01:29:57 am »

First things first, Elo is a name, not an acronym. Just a bit of semantics for ya.

I hope I have to tell people this less often when we stop having Elo.
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