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[frostshotgg]

I'd disagree with that. The only time when Sion is capable of doing anything above 1v2 is when he's hyperfed and the enemy team is hellishly bad.

[werty892]

Why are you talking about 1v5? LoL is a game where if you don't stay together and play as a team, anyone can kill you, unless you are say rammus level 18 versus teemo level 1. Then you will win. But anywhere else, through Superior positioning, tactics, or exploiting mistakes, they can beat you.

Also, I'm really starting to hate the community. Like REALLY. I disliked it before, but now its just coming into my sight that its just noxious. I have 300 wins so I'm no noob, but things have turned to the worst. I am really tiered for my team cussing out the other team for playing well and winning. A Ashe in one of my games went batshit crazy when a Darius got fed and started to dominate. "Press R to win champ etc.".  Why cant people just accept that they outplayed you and not have to be total jackasses. I guess bay12 has spoiled me a little, being the most polite internet community I have ever seen since minecraft early alpha forum games section. I guess Darius is a bit imbalanced at the moment, but there are ways to counter him (Elise top being the best, she just OWNS him) Hes not unkillable, and I wish people would give the common courtesy of not hating others

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[frostshotgg]

Ashe has no reason to be QQing over Darius. All she has to do is dodge his E, then he can't reach her.

[Knirisk]

Also, I'm really starting to hate the community. Like REALLY. I disliked it before, but now its just coming into my sight that its just noxious. I have 300 wins so I'm no noob, but things have turned to the worst. I am really tiered for my team cussing out the other team for playing well and winning. A Ashe in one of my games went batshit crazy when a Darius got fed and started to dominate. "Press R to win champ etc.".  Why cant people just accept that they outplayed you and not have to be total jackasses. I guess bay12 has spoiled me a little, being the most polite internet community I have ever seen since minecraft early alpha forum games section. I guess Darius is a bit imbalanced at the moment, but there are ways to counter him (Elise top being the best, she just OWNS him) Hes not unkillable, and I wish people would give the common courtesy of not hating others

Honestly? If they say one angry thing, it's okay. They're allowed to get frustrated now and again. If they just start spouting off their mouth, there's a mute button, which is also useful if they seem intent on harassing you as well. That said, certain pubstomp champs like Akali and Darius usually seem to get people mad.

Although, personally, it's still Teemo that pisses me off. He's almost made for hating. Also Nidalee/Caitlyn bot lanes.

[Astral]

Teemo or Darius as a top lane is the bane of most AD melee bruisers... that's understandable.

[Sharp]

Darius I don't care about, just try and bait him into using his abilities and dodge them, once he has low mana then you pounce (well flip for me), if he plays clever and doesn't waste his mana then it means he isn't zoning you out so farm and zone him out which is quite easy to do as singed.

Teemo is similar but his range and speed makes him hard to zone out so just have to rely on jungler a bit if Teemo actually playes well.

While that's interesting, the change in stat costs and new itemization options for S3 make old mathcrafting moot. I'm going to go with the standard until proven otherwise. If Gustaf does come to that conclusion again, I'll happily eat my boot, but until then it's staying on my foot.

I think new Black Cleaver beats Last Whisper, I mean I thought old Black Cleaver was better then LW anyway.

Of course it depends on Champs, Kog, Vayne, Corki you need AS more then anything else. On Sivir and Cait though high AD helps with their abilities more and DPS isn't as important when you are poking opponent. It's rare to get someone stand there for 8 seconds while you are attacking them unless it's top lane melee battle while you can have opportunities to use your abilities more.

You can have 6 Phantom Dancers on Sivir but it won't matter if Cait just backs away and spams Q, or Corki with R.

Also now Corki's passive doesn't crit anymore so he isn't that OP and AD is useful on him.

Anyway Black Cleaver does armour pen and armour shred (good for teamfights), it can be built from Brutalizer, also quite awesomely it has non-unique armour pen so you can stack em, the passive won't be better but the base 15 armour pen will stack so 4 Black Cleavers will eliminate most armour on the 1st shot meaning the 2nd is practically doing true damage. I would be tempted to try this on Sivir and clear waves with Q, the return will do similar damage as first with armour reduction and will be great for first shot in teamfight.

[Graven]

ATTENTION CARRIES ON DOMINION:

Just because you got a Runaan's hurricane does not, in fact, mean you should run ahead of your team to engage 4 enemies by yourself. It furthermore does not mean you should ambush alone in the stormbuff brush if you can't reasonably well predict the movement of the entire enemy team. And you can't. So you shouldn't. Neither should you be starting fights in any shape, way or form against a single opponent near the centre of the map if you can't see his teammates. Nor should you run over, ALONE, to help your teammate who stumbled into the entire enemy team and is 100% certain to die.

THANK YOU.

Did everyone just got 20% of their LoL-related IQ knocked down by the season 3 patch or did Riot fuck with Dominion elo or what? I'm seeing displays of retardation far beyond anything I used to see a week ago. It's actually making me into an asshole, even though I just got a friendly token in a game where I might have went too far on our poor Graves. In my meager defense, this was the second game in a row in which he did all of the above on the ad carry.

Also the changes to penetration AND armor at the same time mean it's impossible to actually build tanky right now on Dom. So everyone playing - expect to see a ton of assassins. At least the BC stacking is going away in the next patch, they're supposed to be hitting it quite hard.

[frostshotgg]

Right now BC is op as hell because everything on it stacks.

[penguinofhonor]

For the Dominion crowd, here are the changes being made  next patch to accommodate all the overpowered S3 stuff (also fury champs).

The penetration is being removed entirely. I think it's funny that when they made Dominion they concluded that all armor was roughly 20% overpowered there, then over a year later they realized that all armor was roughly 20% overpowered period.

[Urist McManiac]

Man, the community can be really frustrating some times.
I just finished a game as Malph, helping my lane partner (Ez) farm, warding for him, generally supporting and tanking for him. We had quite a good early game, he got some nice kills and I got my assists. But then the idiot didn't know when to retreat and we got double-killed. From that point onward, he started flaming me hard. Well, I didn't really mind and continued to help him out. After all, he was just another asshole to ignore. Like I would care what a 12-year old is saying.
But for some reason other members of the team joined in the flaming. I wasn't performing bad (could have done a few things better, though), helping my team to get out ahead in teamfights, enable kills, etc. But for some reasons I have become the scapegoat for everyone.
We deffed a tower against the whole enemy team (including a fed TF): I had half of my hp, so I didn't initate, knowing I would get killed without getting a kill for the team. Well, I was accused of being idiot for not rushing in headlessly. Being the cooperative player I am, I did what my team said and initiated. It was no surprise that I got slaughtered while my fucking teammates retreated a second after my ult.

You know, I understand that there are assholes in some teams. I can live with that. But if the whole fucking team just blame you for everyone of their mistakes, it's getting ridiculous. I ended the game with 1 kill (which i picked up accidentally in a teamfight), 7 deaths (second last place in the team) and 12 assists (most assists in my team). So, am I doing something wrong? Is a fucking tank supposed to get all the kills?
I really try to be a positive, cooperative player. But sometimes it seems you have to be a flaming douche to be recognized as a good player....

[Graven]

For the Dominion crowd, here are the changes being made  next patch to accommodate all the overpowered S3 stuff (also fury champs).

The penetration is being removed entirely. I think it's funny that when they made Dominion they concluded that all armor was roughly 20% overpowered there, then over a year later they realized that all armor was roughly 20% overpowered period.

From what I've seen it wasn't actually armor itself that was OP, it was its lower cost and the difficulties in dealing with it. But now they've addressed both points at the same time, leaving armor absolutely useless right now, at least on Dominion. Although I admit TBC stacking is a great contributing factor.

I'm curious why they've chosen to remove some items from Dominion, though, especially Blade of the Ruined King, Van Damme's Pillager and Liandri's Torment, but I've never seen them, so I can't comment on their balance. I just want more shiny stuff 

[frostshotgg]

BoRK is a noob trap, and IIRC, if you *really* want % damage, there's Kitae's Razor. Van Damme's being added would bring back bruiser-itis which is really boring. You have BFT, which is a stronger Liandry's.

[Frumple]

Liandry's is a nasty piece of work. Basically the blackfire torch, with a stronger proc effect (higher health shred, no charge mechanic, and double damage to movement impaired champs E: Ah, though I missed it runs off current instead of max health. Difference, that.), slightly worse stats, and a little (50g) cheaper.

Blade's nice. Really nice. Some damage, lifesteal, then a unique passive that deals 4% of the target's max HP and heals you for half that amount, and an active that steals health (150+.5AD scale) from the target and steals (read: they lose it, you get it.) 30% movement speed from the target for a couple seconds. I've been personally preferring it to sanguine blade or bloodthirster on the AD champs I've played.

Not sure about the pillager, though. It's not seemed that bad when I've seen it.

[frostshotgg]

Yeah, Liandry's is definitely a much toned down BFT.

BoRK looks good, but it has the same catch as Liandry's. *Current HP*.

Pillager is something that everybody and their mom's dog would rush if it were available on Dom or SR for that matter.

[IronyOwl]

Man, the community can be really frustrating some times.
I just finished a game as Malph, helping my lane partner (Ez) farm, warding for him, generally supporting and tanking for him. We had quite a good early game, he got some nice kills and I got my assists. But then the idiot didn't know when to retreat and we got double-killed. From that point onward, he started flaming me hard. Well, I didn't really mind and continued to help him out. After all, he was just another asshole to ignore. Like I would care what a 12-year old is saying.
But for some reason other members of the team joined in the flaming. I wasn't performing bad (could have done a few things better, though), helping my team to get out ahead in teamfights, enable kills, etc. But for some reasons I have become the scapegoat for everyone.
We deffed a tower against the whole enemy team (including a fed TF): I had half of my hp, so I didn't initate, knowing I would get killed without getting a kill for the team. Well, I was accused of being idiot for not rushing in headlessly. Being the cooperative player I am, I did what my team said and initiated. It was no surprise that I got slaughtered while my fucking teammates retreated a second after my ult.

You know, I understand that there are assholes in some teams. I can live with that. But if the whole fucking team just blame you for everyone of their mistakes, it's getting ridiculous. I ended the game with 1 kill (which i picked up accidentally in a teamfight), 7 deaths (second last place in the team) and 12 assists (most assists in my team). So, am I doing something wrong? Is a fucking tank supposed to get all the kills?
I really try to be a positive, cooperative player. But sometimes it seems you have to be a flaming douche to be recognized as a good player....

I've had this happen before. It's possible you just sometimes don't realize what you're doing wrong, but more likely I think they're looking for a target and, hey! Someone found one, that's convenient.