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[Astral]

New Eve is actually pretty good as a jungle. I have a friend who does fairly well with her. Haven't played Twitch yet, so can't determine for myself whether he's good or not, nor have I had any time to play around with Xin.

[frostshotgg]

New Eve is basically Shaco 2.0. Completely dependent on her godlike earlygame to carry her through.

[Exerosp]

Eve is pretty awesome. Xin got nerfed everywhere 'Cept his ult, his sustaining passive was like playing a nunu, you regenned HP like a mad cow, his new passive doesn't do much. Eve has a sustain through her ulti, and she does aaaweeesome dammage. Easily focused down in a team fight though.

[Bordellimies]

I like Xin's kit now more. I can just rush wriggles + cdr boots and then Nashor's Tooth for maximum CDR. Once I have these, 2 x phantom dancer. Then a Frozen Mallet.
Oh god, the bounces never stop. Its like playing Skarner with full AS, the cooldown of his skills is ridiculous.

[Dariush]

Kassadin is epic.

[Knirisk]

I like Xin's kit now more. I can just rush wriggles + cdr boots and then Nashor's Tooth for maximum CDR. Once I have these, 2 x phantom dancer. Then a Frozen Mallet.
Oh god, the bounces never stop. Its like playing Skarner with full AS, the cooldown of his skills is ridiculous.

I'm liking the AP ratio on his sustain, actually. Just a Sheen gives an extra 42% healing on his level 5 W. I think Xin will be a bruiser that I will enjoy playing, maybe with Cleanse. Like, if you have no better initiation, ERQW, and pop cleanse to soak up CC.

[frostshotgg]

One of the biggest buffs Xin got was the Q ratio. That's just mean. He kills towers like a god, I've seen a Xin with a flat AD page kill outer tower 5 minutes, and then proceed to kill the inhibitor turret by 15.

[Yodamaster]

Updating the thread with patch notes now.

Also, I find Xin really strong, but I don't think Sheen is necessary. He needs AD and attack speed more than anything. I would recommend Wit's End vs. an AP champ or otherwise Black Cleaver.

[frostshotgg]

I disagree. Attack Speed isn't nearly as important on Xin now as CDR is. Nashor's Tooth is basically all of the AS you're going to need, it puts you around 1.9 with W on. You're better off getting a Bloodthirster, Trinity, or Fratma's for your AD needs. He's really more of an assassin than dps.

[Alkhemia]

Interesting HoN is going the way of Dota 2 I wounder if LoL will go this way as well. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/07/20/dota-lol-all-heroes-of-newerth-heroes-going-free/

[Dariush]

Played as Mundo. Bought two Warmogs. Then I laughed and laughed.

Why is Mundo so OP, seriously?

[Yodamaster]

I disagree. Attack Speed isn't nearly as important on Xin now as CDR is. Nashor's Tooth is basically all of the AS you're going to need, it puts you around 1.9 with W on. You're better off getting a Bloodthirster, Trinity, or Fratma's for your AD needs. He's really more of an assassin than dps.

Nashor's Tooth is probably not a good item on Xin. It gives AP, AS, and CDR, but no AD or defensive stats. AP really does not help Xin outside of E and sustain. By buying Nashor's Tooth you're neglecting Q, R, and a ton of your DPS. It's kinda hard to assassinate someone without any damage.

I won't say that there's any concrete build order for him yet, because there isn't, people are still experimenting, but the way I see it you can either go bruiser Xin or DPS Xin. Nashor's Tooth doesn't really help with either role in my opinion. Just from my experiences there's no champion that honestly benefits a lot from Nashors over another item. Like on Xin I don't know why I would go Nashor's over Wit's End.

[Knirisk]

Is it just me or do you constantly get certain champs on ARAM? I've gotten Wukong like three times and Mordekaiser twice in one day, and I have a rather large champion pool.

EDIT: Just got Mordekaiser again. You know, you'd think he'd be excellent in ARAM, but people keep dodging when I get him.

[Sirian]

I disagree. Attack Speed isn't nearly as important on Xin now as CDR is. Nashor's Tooth is basically all of the AS you're going to need, it puts you around 1.9 with W on. You're better off getting a Bloodthirster, Trinity, or Fratma's for your AD needs. He's really more of an assassin than dps.

Nashor's Tooth is probably not a good item on Xin. It gives AP, AS, and CDR, but no AD or defensive stats. AP really does not help Xin outside of E and sustain. By buying Nashor's Tooth you're neglecting Q, R, and a ton of your DPS. It's kinda hard to assassinate someone without any damage.

I won't say that there's any concrete build order for him yet, because there isn't, people are still experimenting, but the way I see it you can either go bruiser Xin or DPS Xin. Nashor's Tooth doesn't really help with either role in my opinion. Just from my experiences there's no champion that honestly benefits a lot from Nashors over another item. Like on Xin I don't know why I would go Nashor's over Wit's End.

I just tried Ionic Spark on Xin, it works really well, basically it makes him a much better farmer, allowing him to snowball easily.

[Bordellimies]

I'm doing theorycrafting, how do I convert attack speed (attacks per second) into seconds per attack?