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Author Topic: League of Legends - Patch 7.22 - Runes Reforged  (Read 1273075 times)

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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Ziggs, the Hexplosives Expert - 1.0.0.133
« Reply #7290 on: February 04, 2012, 11:54:47 pm »

So, where is some good ligature I can read if I want to get better at this,
What is the Liquidpedia of LoL?
Use Solomid.net. The guides there are pretty damn good.

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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Ziggs, the Hexplosives Expert - 1.0.0.133
« Reply #7291 on: February 05, 2012, 12:04:35 am »

God I love Udyr.
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« Reply #7292 on: February 05, 2012, 12:06:09 am »

Ever since the Ziggs patch. the LoL Launcher wont open.

Ideas?
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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Ziggs, the Hexplosives Expert - 1.0.0.133
« Reply #7293 on: February 05, 2012, 02:47:55 am »

What would happen if you rocked a full mana + mana regen runepage, went 9 0 21 and went mid with someone like Karthus or Cass?

Could you go full crazy, keyboard smashing facerolling endless spamming supermode?

If you have full mana/level runepage, you get more AP with the rabadon + 5 archangel build than you would get with full ap/level runepage. I think 4 Archangels is enough to give the edge as well, but not 3. BUT since the +880 mana the runes would get actually give mana as well, they're great for spammers. And Ryze.

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« Reply #7294 on: February 05, 2012, 03:06:25 am »

Hah... if only we had unlimited IP to test this theory.

By the way, we were playing more ranked when Lumbajak asked me why I didn't take the weird summoners on Sivir. I was like "yeah... good point..." then switched from flash exhaust to ghost surge. Hah. I wouldn't have gotten so freaking fed if I took the standard summoners on Sivir. After playing so much Ashe I forgot that you screw "normal" when you Sivir. More reason for duo queue. Your partner remembers more things about you than you do.

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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Ziggs, the Hexplosives Expert - 1.0.0.133
« Reply #7295 on: February 05, 2012, 03:21:48 am »

Hah... if only we had unlimited IP to test this theory.

By the way, we were playing more ranked when Lumbajak asked me why I didn't take the weird summoners on Sivir. I was like "yeah... good point..." then switched from flash exhaust to ghost surge. Hah. I wouldn't have gotten so freaking fed if I took the standard summoners on Sivir. After playing so much Ashe I forgot that you screw "normal" when you Sivir. More reason for duo queue. Your partner remembers more things about you than you do.

Actually I used a calculator. So it should be quite correct. I didn't mark them up but Imma calculate the total amount of AP Karthus has with Rabadon + 3/4/5 Archangel staves (fully charged) at level 18. I'll see the AP for both AP/level page and Mana/level page. So stay tuned, I think?

EDIT: Alright, so here it is:


Karthus' base mana is 1368 mana at level 18.
Each Archangel's staff gives 400 mana and 45 ability power. Archangel's Staff also gives 1000 mana when fully charged (UNIQUE passive so doesn't stack with multiple staves)
Rabadon's Deathcap gives 140 Ability Power and increases it further by 30%



Abilty Power per level runes
- Marks = 9 x 1.8 AP = 16.2 AP
- Seals = 9 x 1.8 AP = 16.2 AP
- Glyphs = 9 x 3.06 AP = 27.54 AP
- Quintessences = 3 x 7.74 AP = 23.22 AP

Total: 83.16 AP


Mana per level runes
- Marks = 9 x 21.06 mana = 189.54 mana
- Seals = 9 x 21.06 mana = 189.54 mana
- Glyphs = 9 x 25.56 mana = 230.04 mana
- Quintessences = 3 x 75.06 mana = 225.18 mana

Total: 834.3 Mana



Rabadon & 3 Archangels: AP/level Runes

Mana: 1368 + 1000 + (400 x 3) = 3568
Ability Power: ((45 x 3) + 83.16 + 140 + (9% x Mana)) x 30% = 883.064


Rabadon & 3 Archangels: Mana/level Runes

Mana: 1368 + 1000 + (400 x 3) + 834.3 = 4402.3
Ability Power: ((45 x 3) + 140 + (9% x Mana)) x 30% = 872.5691


So the difference at level 18 is 10.5 AP with these pages. The manapage however gives you +800 mana which is nice. I didn't wanna count with 4 or 5 staves since it already is clear that mana/level page outnumbers ap/level page when it comes to getting maximum amount of AP.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2012, 03:52:13 am by Bordellimies »
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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Ziggs, the Hexplosives Expert - 1.0.0.133
« Reply #7296 on: February 05, 2012, 04:25:07 am »

Did Irelia get buffed?

I know that's an absurd thing to ask, but I just played her and I could swear her healing was better and she was (even) more tanky without big items.  I basically full healed off a single minion wave with R, rocked Ziggs and Yi 2v1 top, when I was killing their tower Ziggs threw his big bomb at me and I pretty much ignored it, took like a tenth of my health.
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« Reply #7297 on: February 05, 2012, 04:28:24 am »

I think if I had 834 mana in lane I'd never need blue like... ever.

By the way, check this out:
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To give context, Leona actually wasn't in lane. He was circling around the back through the river after placing wards. Of course, Caitlyn didn't know this, so I started baiting her by derping around. She gets a lucky crit and suddenly she starts ulting. I panic like a little bitch when Lumbajak appears out of nowhere with the epic save.

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« Reply #7298 on: February 05, 2012, 05:44:31 am »

I take it you just slapped her with an ECA to the face then.
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« Reply #7300 on: February 05, 2012, 07:36:02 am »

So yeah, still not opening. I haven't done anything, it opened to download Ziggs patch, but it said undefined for the server status. I closed it, restarted the computer and it wont open now.

Help?
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« Reply #7301 on: February 05, 2012, 07:39:51 am »

You should also count in the Mana/Level mastery.
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« Reply #7302 on: February 05, 2012, 09:16:27 am »

So yeah, still not opening. I haven't done anything, it opened to download Ziggs patch, but it said undefined for the server status. I closed it, restarted the computer and it wont open now.

Help?
Try reinstalling? Not a great solution, but if it's not the "LoLReplay crashes LoL" bug that everyone was having I dunno. If it is that bug, turn off LoLReplay. If that works, there's a LoLReplay update to fix it.
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« Reply #7303 on: February 05, 2012, 11:42:46 am »

Did Irelia get buffed?

I know that's an absurd thing to ask, but I just played her and I could swear her healing was better and she was (even) more tanky without big items.  I basically full healed off a single minion wave with R, rocked Ziggs and Yi 2v1 top, when I was killing their tower Ziggs threw his big bomb at me and I pretty much ignored it, took like a tenth of my health.

Nawp. Also, people generally consider her a weak laner, so if you do good with her, props to you. It's mid to late game that she becomes supar powerful.
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« Reply #7304 on: February 05, 2012, 02:07:05 pm »

Irelia's main advantages are Q freefarm, rather insane sustain and the QE harassment combo, which is okay but others can do better. She has the tools for doing the farming thing. And she does as well as every other bruiser when farmed.
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