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[Dakk]

Shaco is way too easily countered. You HAVE to deceive in to be effective, and that requires going into the river bush. 1 ward is all that's needed.

I also love it when they ragequit because you buy a ward summon a ghoul and ruin all the JitBs they put down. JitBs really shouldn't attack wards.

Congrats, you spent 75g to temporarily get rid of a free cdr spell while giving Shaco free 25g because his boxes killed the ward. I'm sure he's crushed and sad and entirely ruined by your l33t play.

What's next? Teemo is too easily countered because you can put wards ghouls on his mushrooms to destroy them. 1 ward ghoul is all that's needed.

Yorick scoffs at your mushroom distributing yordles and psychopathic clowns.

[umiman]

Lol yeah... Yorick, the best skillshot cockblocker in the game.

Hurr, Blitzcrank? Ghoul.

Lee Sin? Ghoul.

Morgana? Ghoul.

[Dakk]

I've been trying Shaco, to have a change from the same-old same-old, and I am utterly confused.

I feel like I don't have a clue what I'm doing, I'm having trouble clearing the jungle, hit lvl 3, think:"what the heck, let's gank", and pull off a crazy double gank. I feel my damage is shit, I'm squishy as fuck, it shouldn't happen. Maybe it's the utterly crazy mindset I have when I play him, but I really don't get it.



On a side note: I'm actually looking forward to Xerath. I think he will be horrible, you lose a lot of the dynamics of the game and still there's this magnetic force pulling me to him.

Basicaly how I felt before the skarner release, I knew he was going to be bad, but I just wanted to get him. There's still hope however, he's supposedly getting changed in the comming patches, even the guy who designed him admitted his jungling is way weaker then it was supposed to. However, that same guy is afraid that buffing him a slight bit will break the game, not realizing things like Lee Sin still exist.

[Nilocy]

Umi, Micro's shacos always lead their targets into the river bush maaaan, its what all the pro shacos do now a days...

[Jiokuy]

Lee Sin is getting nerfed. and Eve while not super strong is very good at keeping lanes suppressed, and pushing. I really prefer Eve to Shaco. Though I prefer Twitch to eithir assuming the team comp allows.

[Bordellimies]

Want a challenge?

Play Veigar on Dominion. Suddenly, you're not an AP carry. You're a super-squishy bait object gone team-support with damage on the side. The range on his stun is juuust long enough to fire over walls and hit most of a point, too.

Sure, other champs do it better, are intended to do it, etc, but still. I won one match and it was entertaining in a way Veigar has never before been.

Edit: Four-assassin team vs. myself as Miss Fortune. Never played her before.

Oharmokitburns.

I had a Veigar in my team once. He could get his items really quick, and enemies had very hard time capturing boneyard when Veigar heroically guarded it.

[Errol]

http://runeterra.com/forums/index.php?topic=3579.0

I remembered that some time ago I wrote a Cass guide. Go, go, criticism rangers!

[Ahra]

huh, Yorick and malz seem to be an rather good combo, first win and feeling of face-melting in forever.

[Akigagak]

Cass ganks are best ganks.

[Knirisk]

Almost all carry team on Dominion. The only person who was not a carry was me. I played Warwick. No one except me built tanky items, aside from a Triforce on Jax. Katarina stacked gunblades, but almost the whole enemy team could interrupt her at any time they liked. (I was facing Tryndamere, Maokai, Warwick, Irelia, and Udyr.)

[Akigagak]

This just in, apparently Rammus+Soraka lane beats Akali+Renekton lane.

[Cthulhu]

Today was a horrible day for LoL.  Didn't win a single game despite always winning my lane with one exception that doesn't count.

Also, 0cs support rumble OP.  Me (As Cait) and LuckySpade wrecked their shit but it didn't matter because Lucky had a phone call and i couldn't hold them both off so we lost the tower.

Then lane Amumu said "I hate when people insist on laning together despite bad lane comp"

>lane amumu
>complaining about our lane comp

Unfortunately it looks like we'd have to 5queue to get anything done today, every game had horrible, uncarryable bads.  Last game of the day I was Urgot solo mid vs. Annie.  Totally kicked her ass (she had 16 cs at 10 minutes, until she got level 6 and started holding the Tibbers threat over my head she couldn't get a single creep without taking huge harass) but our Sion pretty much lost his lane immediately so I was constantly getting ganked by Renekton.

Meanwhile jungle Tryndamere hasn't ganked at all, and bottom lane is getting beaten up on constantly.  50 minutes in Tryndamere gets his first damage item (Infinity Edge).

I'm not gonna say you're going to hell if you rush phantom dancer as an AD carry, but I will say you're not going to heaven.

[Akigagak]

I'm not gonna say you're going to hell if you rush phantom dancer as an AD carry, but I will say you're not going to heaven.

If I'm building a PD on a champ, I'll leave it at Zeal for most of the game. Generally only getting that much after either Infinity Edge or Black Cleaver.

Sadly, Cthulhu, I can't offer much in the way of sympathy... because all the games I had today were facerolls. And a couple of funny moments.

Cass Mid vs Annie, we form a for a bit, she comes for me, I back off and poison, then go in with an E. Then I'm stunned, and over the next couple of seconds we faff around emptying our mana pools at each other, I win somehow, her cooldowns come off and she ignite+Qs me but runs out of mana, I hit with another E and I'm completely out as well.

We break off and go back to last-hitting, Annie All-chats "Peace?.

Next game, I'm Soraka. Me and the two people I was queuing with go for Dragon, but their Renek drops a ward nearby and spots us, backs off and waits for reinforcements. I hid in the nearby bush while Noct and Rammus kept at it, and soon a teamfight broke out. None of us died, though Rammus nearly did, escaping from their Akali with 20hp.

He escaped because Clutch silence as she jumped him stopped her from doing anything when she arrived. I then killed her with starcalls while she tried to hide in her shroud.

[Dakk]

rushing PD sort of works on champions that can give themselves AD and don't necessarily have to build tanky, like tryndamere and yi. Its a bad choice on ranged carries though since most of them already have rather high natural attack speed and crit rate (not to mention a few skills that scale with AD), so you benefit most from AD early on, and only after that you build attack speed.

[Sirian]

We break off and go back to last-hitting, Annie All-chats "Peace?.

This reminds me of some games, where i had this tacit understanding with the enemy. Once we were both farming pretty close to each other (melee champs) for several minutes, and only last hitting. And then my champ autoattacked the guy before i could prevent it, and the truce was over :/