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[Knirisk]

I dunno. Riven doesn't look too interesting at the moment, even if I bought one of the bundles because I just...really don't like the classic skin. Plus, you're going to have instalock Rivens for the next day or so, so why bother? She really doesn't look all that interesting from the bot game I just played. I was more entertained by being Sivir and farming everything. Farming two entire minion waves in less than 10 seconds is just hilarious.

[Akigagak]

Got to play around with her to get a feel for her skills, but had to use a StupidBot game to do it. Couldn't react fast enough to play against the more cheaty variety.

She's hella fun to play, and really flowy, if that was a word. And much more melee DPS than Tanky DPS, what with her low-ish base health (Under 2k at 18). Also, slightly limited by the fact that there's shit for choice for CD items on her. Farms like a Boss, though.

I'm thinking for her Core:
Shoes of Appropriateness. Generally Mercs, unless it looks like the game is going to be feeding time for your team, or they have no CC. In that case GET IONIANS.
Black Cleaver. She has a crappy attack speed without it.
Some other CD item. Maybe Ghostblade, though it's kinda crappy.

Also:
TRIFORCE. Maybe. I haven't played enough to see if it's a noticeable boost to damage, but it feels like it should be. if you get your rhythm going*, you can go Q, Proc, normal attack, Q, Proc, attack, Q, Proc, attack. Forever.

*And have decent CD.


Also also, there's a weird bug with her W that delays her auto-attack for the same time as the stun lasts on the enemy. You can get around it by Q-ing something immediately after using it.

EDIT the 2nd:
If you build an item with mana on it, Riven gets a mana bar.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[umiman]

Mmm... gotta love League of Chopping Your Own Dick Off is More Fun Than This Game.

[Dakk]

They intentionaly made triforce sorta bad on her. All her rates and the way she plays indicates she wants to stack AD. SHE HAS A SHIELD THAT SCALES WITH AD, A GOOD ONE TOO.

[Yodamaster]

Irelia is still better than Riven right now.

[umiman]

I feel really sad.

My 2nd most favorite champion to play is now dead (again).

My favorite champion is outclassed by everyone.

And my third favorite is a douchebag that nobody likes.

I mean, I can still play everyone else no problem but you know... you feel sad when your mains have been ruined.

[ECrownofFire]

I feel really sad.

My 2nd most favorite champion to play is now dead (again).

My favorite champion is outclassed by everyone.

And my third favorite is a douchebag that nobody likes.

I mean, I can still play everyone else no problem but you know... you feel sad when your mains have been ruined.

Meanwhile, Urgot is still awesome

Invest in a champion that's good, but not good enough to warrant a nerf. Urgot has remained constant for a long time now.

[umiman]

Back in my day, Urgot was a pile of crap that was useless as fuck. Then Riot gave him some amazing buffs that actually allowed him to be useful past 10 minutes into the game.

I can't exactly "invest in a champion that's good" when I can't predict how Riot will overreact 1 year into the future.

[webadict]

Chogath and Garen bot lane. Wait for Riven and Gangplank to walk into bushes.

*POP* *SPIN*

Cho'gath: "DEMACIA!"
Garen: "OM NOM NOM!"

[xDarkz]

Sad to hear that, Umi :[. I haven't been hit with the NERF-HAMMA on my Wukong main yet, but you never know. Riot's always fidgeting with the champions. Especially now with Dominion about to be released, they're trying to change many superfluous things to alter the meta-game or whatever.

~ As for Riven, I do like her flow, her agility, and the overall style they're trying to implement. She's extremely fast, and combos you faster than you can twitch. Not to mention the fact that her AD ratios are friggin' amazing, 1.8 for her ultimate anyone? Although there are a bunch of positives, I don't think I'm going to pick her up until I'm fully convinced. Even with the Q combo, I think it's going to be relatively hard for her to stick to enemy champions like some of the other melee champions. I've seen some streams, and she's more of a hit-burst-run, type of character, kind of like Talon and Wukong. Not that, that's a bad thing of course, I just don't know whether she has enough sustainability and "umph" to be a major component in team-fights. Though, I could be immensely wrong, as I've only seen streams of her in action. What do you guys think?

[umiman]

Riven is really painful in late game >.> I also really couldn't do anything to her as Talon. I've only seen one though so far.

Today for troll Thursday, we did duo mid Nocturne and Soraka. Won our mid lane so easily followed by a total rape. Nocturne's Q spam and Soraka's Q spam is quite horrific to fight.

Then we did jungle Talon. That one... was painful. I'm going to say this. Out of ALL the junglers I've done. This includes jungle Ashe, jungle Katarina, jungle Janna, etc. Out of ALL of the 50 or so champions I've successfully jungled with. Talon is the shittiest. His early game ganks are so freaking bad (no damage). His jungle speed is horrendously slow. His survivability is so crap. It was nightmarish. We still won when I stole baron and two of them ragequitted. Hehehe.

[ECrownofFire]

Ooh, ooh, try jungling with Urgot next!

[eerr]

They intentionaly made triforce sorta bad on her. All her rates and the way she plays indicates she wants to stack AD. SHE HAS A SHIELD THAT SCALES WITH AD, A GOOD ONE TOO.

What kind of shield stacks with attack damage?

[Akigagak]

They intentionaly made triforce sorta bad on her. All her rates and the way she plays indicates she wants to stack AD. SHE HAS A SHIELD THAT SCALES WITH AD, A GOOD ONE TOO.

What kind of shield stacks with attack damage?

One with a very small dash. And, well, it's made out of her sword's pieces.

As for making triforce bad on her... they kinda failed. Big time. Her entire game is spent skill-attack-skill-attacking. Yes, she wastes a small amount of mana and AP... but she adds about 750 damage to one run of her Q.

[Jopax]

Seriously fuck Riven, can't even start a botgame for 25 IP because everytime someone picks her someone else dodges because they wanted to play her -.-

Finished a game, still 5 IP short FML