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« Reply #3255 on: August 18, 2011, 11:17:53 pm »

That icon... Did Soraka kill Garen with his own ultimate?

Or is that just the icon for shutting down a killing spree?

I hope it's the former, Soraka could really use a new ult after what they're doing to her current one. I just hope they haven't spotted that by nerfing Heal AP ratios, they're actually making 0-creep supports more efficient. Why farm if doing so won't make you noticeably any better at healing?

Because if they haven't spotted that, they'd be making changes that they know will actually have the opposite result of their stated goal. I'd like to think they're not silly enough to do that.
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« Reply #3256 on: August 18, 2011, 11:19:06 pm »

Concerning Riot's love affair with Rap:
Stolen from the official forums.

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Howdy there! Rattly here from the DK Animal Buddies! "I'll Never Win Solo Queue" was our second attempt at a Songs of the Summoned contest and now after finally seeing the winners, I can tell you that I have learned some things about this whole process and I would like to share them with you, the community. After all, if there ARE more Songs of the Summoned contests, you should be properly informed before embarking on such an endeavor! Let's begin, shall we? (Just as a disclaimer, nothing that I say represents the opinions of my band mates.)

Lesson Number 1: Riot loves rap music. They do. How much? Well let's take a look at the winners for the original submissions. Out of the ten, five were rap songs. That's HALF for just one genre of music. One might say "WELL MAYBE THERE WEREN'T OTHER GENRES THAT DESERVED IT!" However, as someone who has listened to a huge amount of the entries, I can tell you that there were tons of fantastic entries in a wide array of genres, such as this amazing old school blues song, "Leblanc (She's Got a Spell For You)" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlXO7MFasnA Or how about "No One Ganks Like Garen"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD4uiTQsRJg Then there is the fantastic Beatles parody that is actually hilarious, "Hey Noob" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvrTCj1eRss Such talent deserved to be credited and would be a nice change of pace from the typical array of Rap/Pop/Mainstream music which dominated 80-90% of the parody winners. As you can see, there is a bias towards rap/pop music, so if you want a much better chance at winning, make one of those.

Lesson Number 2: Riot doesn't pay attention. Either that or they are QUITE inconsistent. One of the two metal songs that won the original category, "Affliction Forever" was a fine entry, but it was submitted for Songs of the Summoned 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0fAhicsJns&feature=player_embedded Anyone who was following the first contest will remember the song quite well as it was one of the first submissions to be posted. If you don't remember it, just look at the date it was added to Youtube! It was posted in November of last year! Regardless of whether or not it is okay to submit a song TWICE is irrelevant because the funniest thing is, it LOST the first contest. So wait a minute. A song that lost a contest with a fraction of the submissions and MANY more winners to come back and WIN a much more fierce competition... How does that make ANY sense? In addition, the runner up song Corki Wins was posted 2 months before the contest was even announced. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voxPrWb-viQ So if you had a song that lost this time, just submit it again the next time around and maybe you'll win!

Lesson Number 3: Riot doesn't ACTUALLY care about the rules. I will quote from Nikasaur's announcement post when she fires off some of the rules. "You must perform the music yourselves, so no singing over pre-recorded songs." Fair enough. This is a music contest, not a karaoke contest, right? Apparently not. Out of the ten parodies that won, at least four used instrumental versions and did not actually perform the songs themselves, as well as at least two of the runner ups. I don't mean to be a whistleblower. While these entries do sound nice, why include this rule if you do not follow it? Here are the examples:

Rock Me Heimerdinger:
http://www.karaoke-version.co.uk/instrumental-mp3/falco/rock-me-amadeus.html (Click on Instrumental Version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGCKnPjWaX0&feature=player_detailpage#t=86s

You Mad Bro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w1Bh8ic1sc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrz9siAhrM

Crank Dat Steam Golem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pZuZ9RVgZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO3SzJBCLuU

Nasus Like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVVKOAuZik4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0coUFD7I0bg

I'm Lanin Solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_aKXA6OhXs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWgcm1Z2VHo

The Winning Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAXzcDURbC8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0r-wxzoLE8

As you can tell by listening to the instrumental tracks and the parody songs, they are clearly exactly the same. While some may say it is unfair to expect Riot to be able to tell the difference(even though it's quite obvious), why have people unable to detect karaoke versions judge a song contest where they are against the rules? Anyways, if you were worrying about practicing your instrument or music software to make a new track for your parody, forget it! Just download the karaoke version!

There you have it! Three lessons well learned that have convinced me never to enter another Riot contest again. While there are many more that I could bring up, three is such a nice, solid number. If you choose to enter a future contest, remember to keep these valuable tidbits in mind! I don't mean to belittle the amazing work of the winning entries, as a lot of them are ridiculously fantastic and they deserve to win. There are just some things that need to be acknowledged.

TL;DR: The Songs of the Summoned contest unfortunately doesn't follow its own rules (4/10 winning parodies used backing tracks) and has biases (preference toward rap/pop/hiphop) that all potential future contestants should really be aware of before devoting weeks to create a song. Thanks for listening.

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« Reply #3257 on: August 19, 2011, 12:20:05 am »

So, wait, how are these songs chosen as the 'best'? Is it through a general vote, or is there a panel of judges... or what?

I know there's a listener's choice prize, but as far as a 30 second google search tells me, the general public does not determine the winners.

...Which leaves me wondering, why is there such a preference towards rap/hip-hop music? O.o
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« Reply #3258 on: August 19, 2011, 12:24:15 am »

A quick question, guys.

I was on a roll earlier, just totally dominating my designated lane with Wukong, quite easily too. Me and my partner, had managed to push into the inner turrets. Though there were some heart-pumping close calls, we suffered very few loses. We were almost guaranteed a win, that was, until from what I had observed, a Xin Xiao summoner had sold most of his items to add two additional Phantom Dancers into his arsenal. He sported a total of four Phantom Dancers and just totally took over. An encounter with him was over before I could even press my ultimate, or flash for that matter.

I know this makes his squishy, and I know focusing on him might do the trick. But... are there no efficient counters to PD stacking aside from Thormail, focus, and pray? Lol.
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« Reply #3259 on: August 19, 2011, 12:25:44 am »

Chain CC him.
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« Reply #3260 on: August 19, 2011, 12:35:58 am »

A quick question, guys.

I was on a roll earlier, just totally dominating my designated lane with Wukong, quite easily too. Me and my partner, had managed to push into the inner turrets. Though there were some heart-pumping close calls, we suffered very few loses. We were almost guaranteed a win, that was, until from what I had observed, a Xin Xiao summoner had sold most of his items to add two additional Phantom Dancers into his arsenal. He sported a total of four Phantom Dancers and just totally took over. An encounter with him was over before I could even press my ultimate, or flash for that matter.

I know this makes his squishy, and I know focusing on him might do the trick. But... are there no efficient counters to PD stacking aside from Thormail, focus, and pray? Lol.

I.... Okay, so he crits every attack and attacks two times a second. He'll be critting for about 200 damage. This is not a lot. The real problem is the three-talon-strike part, which IIRC got nerfed heavily a while ago to stop him from being able to juggle people endlessly.

The solution to that, as Wukong?

Press W.
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« Reply #3261 on: August 19, 2011, 12:54:31 am »

He'd have been squisher than Sona's galactic tits. Unfortunately, Wukong's burst damage is.... crap so you're kinda screwed there. Annie or any other burst caster would have eaten him up though.

Ideally, you could've used your ult on him, then everyone else just rails on him. He'd die in 1 second.

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Mercy (Passive): Talon deals more damage with his basic attacks to any target that is slowed, stunned, immobilized, or suppressed.

Noxian Diplomacy: Talon's next basic attack deals an additional physical damage. If the target is a champion, they will bleed, taking additional physical damage over a period of time and revealing their location for the duration.

Rake: Talon sends out a volley of daggers that then return back to him, dealing physical damage every time it passes through an enemy. Additionally the enemy is slowed for a short duration.

Cutthroat: Talon instantly appears behind his target, silencing them and amplifying his damage against that target.

Shadow Assault (Ultimate): Talon disperses a ring of blades and gains stealth while gaining additional Movement Speed. When Talon emerges from stealth, the blades converge on his location. Every time a blade passes through an enemy, they receive physical damage.

I'm worried about shunpo + Garen Q.

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« Reply #3262 on: August 19, 2011, 01:01:54 am »

Maybe he's the bastard-child of Kat and Garen.

His ult sounds pretty awesome, but I guess we'll have to see.
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« Reply #3263 on: August 19, 2011, 01:09:31 am »

He's a retainer for Kat's dad.  Boooring, I was expecting him to be the guy who killed Boram Darkwill (I guess that's still possible though)

I like how fast they changed the art style from the original comic.  He went from being obviously Altair to...  Marvel presents The Blade's Shadow?  Who knows.  I liked it until I saw the ingame screenshots.  He looks awful.
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« Reply #3264 on: August 19, 2011, 01:19:55 am »

He's a retainer for Kat's dad.  Boooring, I was expecting him to be the guy who killed Boram Darkwill (I guess that's still possible though)

I like how fast they changed the art style from the original comic.  He went from being obviously Altair to...  Marvel presents The Blade's Shadow?  Who knows.  I liked it until I saw the ingame screenshots.  He looks awful.

"Man, they're complaining about our reference to a popular and good series of games. Let us make him purple and give him a retarded cloak!"

EDIT: Oh hey, it's that texture again. His cone slow is the same as the "hit" effect when Akali uses her E and Irelia uses her Q. Only, ya know, purplish.

EDIT EDIT. Oh. And his Ult uses it as well. Sigh.
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« Reply #3265 on: August 19, 2011, 03:56:53 am »

Yeah...x]. I figured Wukong's overal damage output was crap, a while ago. I bought him via IP for more-or-less aesthetics.. I was a big fan of the legendary Chinese novel entitled, "Journey to the West," and it's proceeding iterations. It's a shame he deals so little damage for being a DPS and all.

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« Reply #3266 on: August 19, 2011, 04:31:28 am »

Yeah...x]. I figured Wukong's overal damage output was crap, a while ago. I bought him via IP for more-or-less aesthetics.. I was a big fan of the legendary Chinese novel entitled, "Journey to the West," and it's proceeding iterations. It's a shame he deals so little damage for being a DPS and all.
I have no idea what he's supposed to be right now.

I kinda feel that this iteration of Monkey King is completely surpassed in every way by Renekton. And even Renekton is not particularly strong. Thus, in my mind, poor Wukong is at the very bottom of the tanky DPS pile. He is extremely good at running away though, I'll give him that.

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« Reply #3267 on: August 19, 2011, 08:20:11 am »

vayne + ridiculus amounts of AP runes malz vs me and warwick = Me wanting to be able to cry tears of blood
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« Reply #3268 on: August 19, 2011, 09:24:32 am »

Horrible tankydeeps or no, Wukong pubstomps with his ulti. I can't count how many times he wiped out my entire team by juggling them around for his own teammates.

Also, Riot inadvertently made another tankydeeps champion. Dash, damage amplification, extra damage on a slowed target. Frozen Mallet and/or Trinforce. Yay.  ::)

Depends. If he builds off of AP, he's basically going to be Akali with a built in slow and a Dash that isn't his ult.
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« Reply #3269 on: August 19, 2011, 10:15:14 am »

North American servers are down for a bit. Blah.
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