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[frostshotgg]

Started playing again finally. Varus is pretty fun (got him today) but Hecarim (Got him a few days ago) is THE BEST THING. Oh my GAWD he' SO FUN.

EEh... To each his/her own. There aren't any satisfying mechanics to him for me. He's mediocre in everything, and I'd rather have one amazing skill and a terrible everything else just for that satisfaction. Nothing about him stands out, and whenever I play him I end up getting pegged with the blame-the-jungler meta, which sucks.

[RedKing]

Made an EU account the other day for shits and giggles and to see what it was like playing with a brand new account and a few months' experience under my belt.

IT IS PAINFUL. Had a bot match (a beginner bot match) that turned into an hour-long bloodbath. I was the only player with a positive K+A/D ratio, and I was playing Janna, for god's sake. Had over 50% of the teamkills and something like 85-90% of the kills+assists.

On the one hand, kinda fun as "challenge mode". On the other hand, so much rage at people running right into turret fire or trying to take on 3 enemy champs solo.

[cerapa]

Made an EU account the other day for shits and giggles and to see what it was like playing with a brand new account and a few months' experience under my belt.

IT IS PAINFUL. Had a bot match (a beginner bot match) that turned into an hour-long bloodbath. I was the only player with a positive K+A/D ratio, and I was playing Janna, for god's sake. Had over 50% of the teamkills and something like 85-90% of the kills+assists.

On the one hand, kinda fun as "challenge mode". On the other hand, so much rage at people running right into turret fire or trying to take on 3 enemy champs solo.

I have to try this now. Sounds fun, and I do mean it. I find people running into turrets funny as hell. Its like a combination of schadenfreude and a feeling of superiority, with a dash of wtf.

[Carcanken]

Udyr is a pretty fun champion, always easy to jungle as him, and the ganks are very awesome.

[penguinofhonor]

Tried a ranked game. Our jungle was Shyvana versus Nautilus. Shyvana should destroy Nautilus. Shyvana did not counterjungle Nautilus a single time. Their Naut got super fed and destroyed us.

Their bot was warding tons. Our bot bought 0 pink wards. Their bot got super fed and destroyed us.

Not to mention everyone going "Ban Darius! Ban Darius! Ban Darius!" during the entirety of champion select.

Who the hell says ranked is more mature than normals? In normals I get people who know how to play their champions, know how to form a team, and know how to ward. In ranked I get people who whine for FOTM bans, let the enemy's ganking jungler step all over them, call a role despite only knowing one champion in that role, and play FOTM champions without knowing how to use them.

[webadict]

Tried a ranked game. Our jungle was Shyvana versus Nautilus. Shyvana should destroy Nautilus. Shyvana did not counterjungle Nautilus a single time. Their Naut got super fed and destroyed us.

Their bot was warding tons. Our bot bought 0 pink wards. Their bot got super fed and destroyed us.

Not to mention everyone going "Ban Darius! Ban Darius! Ban Darius!" during the entirety of champion select.

Who the hell says ranked is more mature than normals? In normals I get people who know how to play their champions, know how to form a team, and know how to ward. In ranked I get people who whine for FOTM bans, let the enemy's ganking jungler step all over them, call a role despite only knowing one champion in that role, and play FOTM champions without knowing how to use them.

That's why you have to duoqueue. It's the only way to assure that you'll have a good time. My friend and I did a ranked... We went 5/2/6 and 5/1/6. As Graves and Janna. Our bot lane crushed so hard, they had to 5-man gank us. And we still would get kills. My only death was an execution getting Soraka.

Fun times.

[penguinofhonor]

On a positive note, my friends seem to excel at troll strategies. Double jungling is the new thing. We've done Nautilus/Shen and Alistar/Blitzcrank, stomped both games. Our AD Lulu in bot went 15/1. I went 4/1/21 as Alistar.

[webadict]

On a positive note, my friends seem to excel at troll strategies. Double jungling is the new thing. We've done Nautilus/Shen and Alistar/Blitzcrank, stomped both games. Our AD Lulu in bot went 15/1. I went 4/1/21 as Alistar.

Doesn't beat quadrajungle. 3-minute dragon. 15-minute baron. Guaranteed.

EDIT: Or whatever the dragon timer is.

[frostshotgg]

Honestly, though, if you're going to have 4 smites, make the fifth guy take smite, and get that much more smite goodness.

[webadict]

Honestly, though, if you're going to have 4 smites, make the fifth guy take smite, and get that much more smite goodness.

Fifth guy wasn't into the idea. We gave him mid.

[penguinofhonor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4SFwQWBi7g

[Bordellimies]

Dragon spawns at 2:30.
And all smite games are good.

[ThtblovesDF]

Double jungling is the new thing.

Haha

Anyway, new balance patch makes me wonder why they are buffing gragas? I play him regularly and he is strong, not only against aps with his easy to hit, long range AoE + sustain and large hp pool, so screw you burst mage - but also against ADs, with said range and debuffs... his ulty (on a dangerously short cooldown with CD) is janna ulti-like utility and can turn any teamfight, if only by dmg.

[Person]

Would anyone be interested in a Cho guide for jungling and such? I'd like to share what I've come up with so we can see more of the guy running around.

I'd be interested.

[RedKing]

Good read. I've played around some with Cho'Gath, and I get the gist of what you're saying about being a troubleshooter of sorts, zipping around to disrupt pushes, hit undefended lanes, etc.

Maybe I missed it, but what summoner spells do you go with? Smite, obviously. But what about the second? Teleport, for increased battlefield mobility? or do you figure with L5 Boots, it's kind of superfluous and go for Exhaust or Ignite instead?