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[umiman]

Let them rage man. It's only 650 people. Even if 1,000,000 people hated the changes, it'd still only be 3% of the LoL population.

[webadict]

Let them rage man. It's only 650 people. Even if 1,000,000 people hated the changes, it'd still only be 3% of the LoL population.

Weeeell... Not gonna have a statistical fight.

I dunno. 650 people downvoting is a lot. Really, you're better off looking at the ratio of upvotes to downvotes on YouTube, as that'll be a good estimate for the actual number of people that like or hate a patch. It may be off by a bit, but it's still not a bad estimate.

[umiman]

I'd care a lot more if any of the whining complaints had any merit in the first place. Hell, look at the "Top" comments...

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Oh right welcoming tha noobs who don't even require any skills to be successful in jungling and what about those who spent time on mastering tha jungle system? Tha changes on Sivir is acceptable. Also nerfing tha minions? Wtf? Champions like garen can just deny a squishy champ champ in lane by just blasting their auto attacks with out getting almost no damage from minions. And what happens? Tha whole game is screwed and a new Meta is formed. All 5 champs should be TANKY dPs. G riot.

I don't even know where to start with this one. Suffice to say this guy is a moron. Top comment material right here!

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i started playing in late 2009 if im not mistaken. this game was SO much better in 2010 itīs not even funny. all of these new champions they insist on releasing every 2 fucking weeks have, in my opinion, ruined the game. a lot of the original and early season 1 champions are ignored in the patches and are rarely viable now. some were even NERFED when they did not need any nerfs, while others that were already leaning towards op were buffed. i just dont get riotīs thinking.

And somehow 60% of the permaban list I just so recently put up consists of champions included in the game when it was first released. This game was so much better when everyone was stacking gold/10 and afk farming. So much better when Warwick could solo baron at 15 minutes with just a Bloodrazor. So much better when minions did 1/2 damage compared to now to towers and games lasted on average of 1 hour. Rose tinted glasses much?

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I really don't understand this jungle change.

Currently THE most aggressive position to play is probably the jungler.

But with this patch you probably won't be able to gank as a jungler as much as now. Lower rewards+lower respawn rates means if you try to gank and fail you will fall severely behind the other jungler who just farms nonstop.

I thought Riot wanted to promote more aggressive gameplay, WHY change the most aggressive role in a team to a simple farmwar?

Wow, really? That makes no freaking sense at all. You know what I'd do if I found out my jungle creeps gave much less gold? I'd be ganking ALL THE TIME.

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Omg they got scared of DOTA 2 so started making all these changes..... And that nerf to minion dmg is fucking bullshit at least i got strategize on how to take a champ down if theres to much minions and now they are turning this game into a mindless hack and slash!! Gonna be real happy when akali charges at me without any minions to support me GJ RIOT!!!

Because Akali doesn't have an invisibility shroud that makes her immune to minion aggro in the first place. Logic is strong in this one.

Do I have to continue? These idiots are giving me a headache. I say just wait for the actual patch notes and play 10 - 20 games before raising pitchforks.

[Bordellimies]

Another game as jungle Twitch. He is so great, takes out Golem in no time, and the lvl 2 gank usually grants a first blood if your ally has a stun.

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http://gyazo.com/4f0b6c2ebf915e02cbb2f8e8ef6d67dd

Made their Ez actually ragequit. Right after I forst blooded him, he got vision ward. When it ran out, I ganked, and he survived. So he bought another one. Then Ryze killed him. Then we had a small teamfight at bot, and I almost died. But I got a triplekill, and Ez ragequitted. Fun times.

[webadict]

Don't read the YouTube comments. Those are mostly idiots.

[Shadowgandor]

But the ones liking and disliking are not?

[webadict]

But the ones liking and disliking are not?

That is an anonymous button. People will often grant information if it's anonymous. Plus, it's as easy as clicking a button. Posts, on the other hand, will only be typed by the strongly opinionated. Therefore, they will either really like it or really hate it. So, there will, of course, be some people in favor typing opinions, but they will be drowned out be the number of negatives there are from this patch.

So, top comments are stupid. The like/dislike functions is clearly superior.

[cerapa]

Guide to up and downvotes:

People who are not idiots wait until the patch comes out to see if the changes are bad.
No change in up and downvotes.

Idiots rage at change.
Downvote.


Upvote.

[ThtblovesDF]

Isent defending a patch before it even came out in the same vally of failure?

Yes, on average a community is best represented by some 14 year old with a strong lack of focus - but riot claimed they'd listen to the community, but I personally see a clear "listen to the wallet" going on here, which makes perfect sense, but I found worth pointing out.

(Also not a single riot comment in the thread full of hate, better only deal with the good sides of the community : D)

[umiman]

Why are we even discussing this? The value of Youtube comments. This is a pretty dumb topic I think.


Anyway, on my quest to reclaim my throne as undefeatable in lane (something I've been failing at ever since new masteries). I think I've finally found it. The holy grail. The binding key. The base on which all further scientific discovery will be sourced!

Behold!!!!!

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I think that's the most efficient bruiser masteries you can do right now. So like, for non-specialized tanky DPS like Irelia and Udyr. It seems unassuming, but you have no idea how long I've spent experimenting with different mastery setups to finally settle on this. With these masteries, I'm pretty confident I can go back to owning top lane like I always have been.

To celebrate the occassion, I also decided to spend all the IP I earned in the 30 hour marathon on the best rune page for tanky DPS.

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I'm still lacking 3 remaining attack speed blues but it's funny starting with 0.9 attack speed. Practical too, since Irelia... Udyr... X^Z... Skarner... all these guys scale mostly with AS.

[ThtblovesDF]

I'm just going with Mana per lvl runes, since I play karthus (archangle-staff-glass-cannon) or blitzkrank (Yes, please try to gank me!) which both work well with it...

[Bluerobin]

(Also not a single riot comment in the thread full of hate, better only deal with the good sides of the community : D)

They've been commenting on people's posts, they just tend to post in threads with more well-defined purposes instead of trying to control a flamefest thread. Morello on "dumbing down" the game and Guinsoo about the new jungle. There was one more I wanted to link but I can't find it right now.

Also, on an unrelated note, how do you deal with a Shyvana as an opponent in top lane? As far as I can tell she's not really strong for the first level or two, but once she hits 3 or 4 she just outdamages and outlasts whatever I've seen thrown at her.

[umiman]

She's strong man. She gets supernaturally tanky without any items. Hell, you know she's tanky when Garen can't do anything to her at level 4. That's like the final exam for a tanky DPS and she aces it with flying colours.

She does so much damage too, and pushes like a god. Not to mention it's really, really hard trying to gank her. Finally, combine it all with the fact that she's craaazy powerful in lategame and well... you've got a really solid solo top.

Probably the only hard counter to her that I can think of is Swain. Maybe Ryze as well. Vayne could probably deal with her too.

[Cthulhu]

So I'm trying to get into the Dota 2 beta and I'm at the demographics survey, which asks a bunch of questions about how good I am at dota 1.  I only played it a few times and I hated it because of the community (When I played Warcraft 3, dota games were 90% Brazilian with all the things that entails, and the ones that weren't were so elitist even so-called "noob" games were a nightmare.).  Now that I have some MobA experience and I'm aware of guides, I think I can do better.

Could anyone tell me some average values I can throw in the survey?  Average level at the end of a game, average gold collected, average KDR, that kind of stuff.

plx man plx

[Bluerobin]

Yeah I got to that point to, then I thought "eh, this isn't worth it."