Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Skyrunner]

One of the points brought up in Putnam's reddit link isn't really a good point. Practically every game has region-locked accounts, and some even actively ban IP ranges to enforce regions. Dota2 is the exception, not the norm here.

[Arcvasti]

Can I get some tips on what to do when you're really far behind? My last two games were so depressing...
Especially with marksmen, which I've been having a lot of fun with, recently.

As far as I can tell, if you're an adc beside Varus or Ashe and you're behind, you're fucked. Adcs rely on having lots of items that stack exponentially and murdering everyone with them. If you don't have those and don't have utility, you're pretty useless unless you can go free farm a lot. With other champions, its usually just a matter of setting up kills for someone who ISN'T behind with your utility and leeching off that. Adcs have a harder time with that because fewer of them have utility.

[IronyOwl]

Can I get some tips on what to do when you're really far behind? My last two games were so depressing...
Especially with marksmen, which I've been having a lot of fun with, recently.

If you personally are behind, focus on stemming the bleeding; better to be underfarmed than dead and underfarmed.

If your whole team is behind, you need to examine the situation and figure out what's going on and what you might be able to do about it. If your team scales harder than theirs, for instance, playing defensively in general might work. If your team is burst-heavy and theirs has good teamfighting potential, you'll probably need to catch one of them out and delete them to even the odds. If you keep getting caught out yourself, maybe just not doing that so much will fix it.

Either way, it's kind of a delicate balance between not panicking and not doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result.

One of the points brought up in Putnam's reddit link isn't really a good point. Practically every game has region-locked accounts, and some even actively ban IP ranges to enforce regions. Dota2 is the exception, not the norm here.

Pretty much all of the points brought up in Putnam's reddit link aren't really good points. Most of them are whiny, anecdotal, or just plain wrong; of the ones that have some merit, they're not really explained and given context well enough to be good points on their own, as with the region locking thing.

[Yodamaster]

Can I get some tips on what to do when you're really far behind? My last two games were so depressing...
Especially with marksmen, which I've been having a lot of fun with, recently.

If you're a champion who scales really well, focus on farming. If your scaling is weaker, take more risks and try to make plays by catching people when you can. Most games are always winnable, there's always a good chance the enemy team will throw.

[frostshotgg]

What yoda says is wise. In the former game, what you probably should've done is roamed hard when you realized you were losing lane and gotten mid or bot fed. Some games you just have to accept that you can't be godlike and play more team oriented. In the second game, it seems like you were getting your ass assassinated left and right, so probably the thing to do to prevent that is to group up earlier to prevent the assassins from getting fed, then hunt down the cait and stop her farming. After you fell behind, from the looks of things, probably splitpushing as hard as you can and hoping to draw away one of the fed enemies so that Fiora and Liss could clean up shop would be the thing to do. In the future, keep in mind that at that point a tower is worth far more than your life or your ult, so it's fine to pop your R for the attack speed steroid.

[Jack_Bread]

I didn't even think of roaming for the Renekton game. It probably would've been a good idea as there was almost no way me nor Trynd could kill that Nidalee. Usually when I'm behind I tend to split push, but she was doing pretty well protecting her tower and pushing.
The second game, I actually made a terrible decision to farm rather than help my jungler/support try to get a kill and it ended up getting me and the jungler killed... It really helped Cait and after that, there was no way I could 1v1 her. Also when I had 20 cs, she had 60. Pushing would've probably been more effective then weakly attempting to teamfight with my team, though.
EDIT: For the record, Fiora was mid vs Akali and our Liss was top vs Malphite

[Graven]

Guys I'm not sure if anyone is watching the NA LCS - http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames - but this Complexity vs Curse game sure was ... something. Definitely quite... something.

Casters completely lost their minds towards the end, it was hilarious. And sad. But mostly hilarious.

[palsch]

Timestamped Twitch link from /r/LoLeventVoDs.

Hopefully I won't regret posting this.

[IronyOwl]

Guys I'm not sure if anyone is watching the NA LCS - http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames - but this Complexity vs Curse game sure was ... something. Definitely quite... something.

Casters completely lost their minds towards the end, it was hilarious. And sad. But mostly hilarious.

Saw it. Couldn't stop laughing at the end.

I'd heartily recommend it, but the thing that made it so hilarious also makes it a bit harder than normal to watch.

[frostshotgg]

Who doesn't love 80 minute games. :\

The way it ended felt like a cop out.

[birdy51]

Saw an earlier discussion on Sona. Thought I would throw my hat into the ring as I played her quite actively for a time.

A detail that often becomes downplayed with Sona's auras is that they aren't the only thing going for her kit. Her Power Chords should never be ignored or understated in their usefulness or being a part of her kit. I mean yes, a few points into damage, damage reduction, and movement speed don't hurt. But Power Chords are what makes Sona's auras interesting. They flow nicely with the aura system; rewarding the choice between offense and defensive decisions by accenting the action on the field.

Staccato is painful as hell and is accented by the fact that Sona's allies are also doing more damage. Diminuendo doesn't hurt as much, but you can definitely tell that Sona has nerfed your damage by an unhealthy 20% plus the other defenses that she's put up. Tempo accents the fact that Sona is either going to A) Catch up to you or B) Escape by a mile. Without necessarily acknowledging the aura's, you know what aura's are there by what the power chords are doing to you.

It's also what does make her fun. Admittedly, I love Song of Valor zoning, but it would be nothing without that Staccato backing it up. While healing people and buffing their defenses is nice, being able to actually do something about that Katarina or similar character gibbing everyone is also nice. I do have to say though that Song of Celerity is also fun, even if you aren't actively hitting people with it's power chord.

Moar speed!!

[Cthulhu]

Decided to get infernal nasus, then changed my mind, so I grabbed some champs instead.  Yasuo, Malzahar, and Tolan Pls.

Hated yasuo at first, couldn't play him, wasn't fun.  Dropped him for a while and went back to my first love, Malz.  God damn I love Malz so fucking much, and the new itemization (I played him back before S1) is so kickass on him.  Sorcs, Hat, Liandry, Rylai, Zhonya, Void Staff, true damage to squishies.  Your Q does half somebody's health, your W does 15% health per second (more like 18-20 if you have baron), your E is fucking space AIDS and if it bounces to somebody during a siege they pretty much have to b.  And your ult obviously does a shitload of damage.  And like I said, all true damage against most squishies.

He does so much fucking damage it's bullshit.  Ridiculous push, great ganks, great against the no-farm assassins like Akali and Kat, since you really shouldn't die in laning phase and a couple tries at roaming will have you hitting their inhib tower.  They're pretty much forced to sit there and farm under tower until they're irrelevant.

Not spamming him as much as I normally would since I have other champs to mess with but I'm 6-1 so far and I've never gone negative.  I love Malzahar so much, he was the first champ I ever really loved and got good with.  I'm still pre-30 on my new guy so I don't have to worry about QSS and shit, ez game ez life.

Not liking Talon as much but I've only played two games.  Biggest problem is he needs an armorpen rune page and I've only got two pages right now so I have o decide whether I want to play yasuo or talon as my AD mid before I queue up.

And Yasuo.  I picked him back up after my troublesome first few tries (for some reason whenever I play AD mids like Talon, Panth, Yasuo, etc. the rest of my team trolls me, so I rarely get normal games with them) and eugh...

On one hand, he's fun as fuck.  Probably the most fun champ to play in the game, cool aesthetic, etc.  But on the other hand he's complete bullshit and I'm not going to deny it.  It's like, he's pretty okay early but kind of weak, easy to harass and we're back to seeing heavy harassers mid.  But if you can just not die, once you get your shiv your power spikes ridiculously.  Add IE on top of that and you're balling completely out of control.  I don't think I've ever seen a champ spike so hard from so few items.  And he has infinite mobility when I've always disliked the mobility creep in League.  And he's yet another manaless champ.  They originally said that manaless champs were gated by cooldowns and the like but none of them actually are.  Kat has resets, Lee Sin gets his energy back for free and can Q like every five seconds (and ward-jump even if he can't hit it), most of the rest have pretty short cooldowns, and then Yasuo is pretty much trolling us with completely nonexistent cooldowns (his ult is 30 seconds at rank 3, for a game-winning aoe cc ult with giant damage even before you include the Q at the end which will probably kill anyone who survived the ult)

But I don't play him super often because he's teamcomp dependent.  I only play him if there's multiple displacements on my team.  Braum free week has been a fun time.  A late game Braum ult when I've got my full build is basically GG.  He kind of reminds me of Dota, he's a situational pick that's really strong when put in a team that complements his strengths.  Malphite/Yasuo is nuts.

[frostshotgg]

Sylvester Talon is probably my favorite of the ones you listed. He's one of the only old-style glass cannon assassins left, as most of the old assassins have been reworked or nerfed hard by now, and every assassin since Rengar has been a bruiser with above average damage. Feels damn good to be able to melt people like butter.

[Flying Dice]

-snip-

In reference to this, I'm about 95% certain that Sona's passive is staying the same. She's got what you could think of as three different effects on her QWE: primary (deal damage/heal/speed up), secondary (the three auras), and passive (the Power Chord on-hit effects). Of those, both the primary and passive look to be staying the same, they're just changing up the secondaries, turning them into those extra "passive" effects (magic damage on-hit/shield/short spurt of speed) rather than the auras. Which is part of the reason why I'm less upset about this than I might otherwise be; it's a rework of a certain part of her kit, rather than the whole thing. The new Q secondary effect should stack with the Q Power Chord (and Lich Bane if you're a cool cat) for slightly stronger empowered AAs.

[Arcvasti]

-snip-

Yasuo + Malph + Lulu = Wombos all day. Although I personally don't find Yasuo that broken, that's just from my choice of mid laners[Liss FTW!].

I HATE Talon, but that's because I don't like having my face melted in half a second.

Malz is cool. He tastes SO. PURPLE.