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[Jopax]

So what's up with Trundle?

I don't really see his kit as being that strong or the champ itself. But he just works for some reason. My jungling isn't the best but so far I've not lost a single game where I jungled with Trundle. That trollzy bastard.

And probably the best game so far with him was ranked yesterday. Where general nonsense and trash talking took place. Then I started quoting Dune in caps to the enemy Lissandra. That got a bit wierd.

[frostshotgg]

Trundle is godlike against enemy teams with exactly 1 tank/bruiser, and shit against all other conceivable compositions. His ult's usefulness is a relationship between how much he can leach with it versus how much there is to leach. In teams where everybody or the majority have 4k hp and 200 of both resists, he can't do anything because whoever he softens up can just hide behind everybody else. In teams where everybody has 1.5k hp and 50 resists, he does fuck all because there are bruisers who are far, far better at molesting squishies than him.

[Cthulhu]

Trundle is also kickass against most of the melee AD bruisers people normally send top.  This used to be a secret but I think the cat's been out of the bag for a while now.

Q and R means he automatically wins in a straight manfight against most AD champs, and W and E means he dictates the terms of the engagement.  If he doesn't win the manfight, you'll be hard pressed to force it, and if he does you'll be hard pressed to avoid it.

Also just had my first game against post-rework bruiser Nid.  Literally Hitler.

[penguinofhonor]

Pillar is ridiculous and lets you dictate the terms of engagement for every fight. I've stalled so many initiations with that thing.

[Cthulhu]

Yasuo can also ult off the displacement from a pillar even if Trundle is on the enemy team. 

Oh my god I love mantheon.

[Arcvasti]

Yasuo can also ult off the displacement from a pillar even if Trundle is on the enemy team. 

Yasuo can also ult Nidalee when she pounces. Which is hilarious the one time I saw it done.

[Cthulufaic]

how fast have you guys been able to get as rammus?  So far that's what I've been doing for a bit... I've gotten up to 1500 or around there with revive and homeguards.

[Jack_Bread]

Here's a video of 9.2k movement speed Rammus: http://youtu.be/Os-my1q2zW0?t=8s

[Jopax]

So I've been playing ranked again. Some good matches, some bad, the usual.

The highlight was my last one though. I took Jinx to bot because I felt like playing her. Was with Blitz, up against Leona an Trist. Generally, I was doing ok, if a bit dangerously because Leona loved jumping on me whenever I tried to farm properly. The problem with that was Blitz, who would every single time go to punch Trist, instead of Leona. Because the moment Trist landed she would jump on my permastunned ass and kill me. This happened several times, and I asked Blitz to maybe help me next time, instead of chasing kills he couldn't get without his carry. He didn't really listen, so I just kept on dying whenever they felt like killing me because nobody ever tried covering me, least of all my supposed support.

And of course the game got blamed on me. And yes I fed, but I feel it wasn't all my fault tbh, if the support fails to cover and carry the god damned carry and the carry turns out useless, whose damn fault is it?

[ejseto]

every single time go to punch Trist, instead of Leona

That's exactly what he's supposed to do. If he cc's Leona, then Trist is free to jump all over your face. From his perspective, if they decide to go all in, you're probably already dead. The best thing to do is cc Trist and hope you can do enough damage to either trade kills or scare her off. If that Blitz were REALLY pro, after knocking up Trist, he'd pull her right out of her jump. The simple fact is, you got initiated on by a Leona while playing a champion with no escapes. If your flash is down, you're basically dead, unless they stupidly decided to engage with a huge disadvantage. And that's exactly what's supposed to happen. If you let Leona cast Zenith Blade on you past level 6 and have no escapes, you are going to die if the other adc is remotely competent.

It's cliche to say so, but blaming your team for you not being able to dodge skill shots isn't going to make you a better player. If you can't learn to dodge them, you should at least pick champions with escape mechanisms.

[Skyrunner]

Leona hard counters everyone without an escape, which is why she also counters Annie support. Lock her down, take her out.

[IronyOwl]

Yasuo can also ult Nidalee when she pounces. Which is hilarious the one time I saw it done.

This sounds amazing. I can't help but imagine Nidalee snarling some cliche anime villain line in mid-air, followed by Yasuo shouting some cliche anime hero line before going in.

[frostshotgg]

Yasuo shouldn't be able to ult on Nid's pounce. If he can, it's a bug that'll be fixed. Riot's said repeatedly Yasuo only can ult on cc movement, not dashes/blinks.

[Flying Dice]

It's still funny for however long it lasts, though.

[Sinistar]

Yasuo's wall is so silly it almost isn't even funny anymore. He can stop Nami's ulty, ffs.

Notice I said "almost".

Jopax -  It sucks being yelled at, this game could do with some general chill all around a lot of times. But we'll all get better.