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[frostshotgg]

First things first: 99% of League players don't give a fuck about whether or not you play other MOBAs. It's purely a 1-way street of hatred. Maybe because League is more successful or something, I'll never understand why.

Secondly, your knowledge is inaccurate. League is right in the middle of the pack as far as horrible communities go. Of the ones you listed, Dota is probably the worst. Riot actually tries to curb the shitty players, which is really more than can be said for Valve.

Beyond that, it's really a matter of preference. Give league a try, if you don't like it, don't keep playing it. At most you lose time.

[Chaoswizkid]

Pretty much what FrostShot said. Ever since Season I, I've really only seen open season declared on LoL by the other MOBA communities. There's also YouTube videos of why DotA is the best and League is made for little kids. The most reaction I've seen in the opposite direction would be something like "DotA? Get that shit outta here!" which is pretty tame. You'll find similar reactions between the different playerbases from comments on MOBA reviews. League can have some really toxic players, but they do get banned, suspended and warned. Riot actively and passively encourages positive play and player experience and actively and passively discourages the opposite. There was a video I saw on YouTube about relating Riot's techniques to the real world and how it might positively affect society (which it acknowledged was just conjecture, but it was interesting).

As for why play instead, League has a lot to offer. I've played DotA Allstars, Heroes of Newest and DotA 2. HoN was just a straight-up copy of Allstars with some ability shuffling. DotA 2 is a legitimate copy of Allstars. All of them rely on Strength/Agility/Intelligence stats as their core gameplay. League doesn't use that model, and in my experience its the only one that does what it does with breaking down all the different stats. So there's some unique experience. There's a plethora of fanart and fanvideos. Seriously, it has a pretty ridiculous amount of stuff made by fans that other fans can enjoy.

Another note on communities: Allstars had one of the worst communities. Games were hosted in conjunction with bots. These bots had a list of accepted players. That is, not new players. If you were new and you joined the game, you were kicked, no questions asked. The only way to be able to play was to find a game not host-assisted by a bot or get someone who played to vouch for you. However, if you ever did something the host didn't like, like have a poor game, they could shitlist you, banning you permanently from playing any Allstars games in the future. Then you were left with registering another WarCraft III account or trying to jump through stupid amounts of hoops to get removed from the shitlist.
DotA 2 inherited that community.

[webadict]

... Yeah, honestly, I played DotA a few times.

It was really bad.

I've played LoL a lot. It's not too bad. Plus, you follow this path:

Uninformed Newbie - You don't know anything and everything is new and exciting! Ooo, I use a bow? I should buy bows!
Informed Newbie - Oooo, the numbers mean things?! Sooo... Green is magic, right? This item has LOTS of magic! I'll buy 6 of them!
Dabbling - Wow, why is that guy losing against bots? He must be bad.
Novice - Why is that guy buying 2 Doran's Blade? That's silly!
Adequate - I'm going to buy 2 Doran's Blade, that seemed to work for that guy.
Competent - Why would you buy Doran's Blade on Kennen?!?
Skilled - OMG why aren't there 2 people in top?
Proficient - OMG NO MIA!
Talented - OMG NO WARDS!!!
Adept - "/all plz report sona"
Expert - First Blood! "/all gg"
Professional - OMG why are there 2 people in top?
Accomplished - OMG why are there 5 people in mid?
Great - OMG where are all 5 people?
Master - Oh, there's 5 people in mid again. I got this.
High Master - Double Kill! "iJung4eva [Eve]: plz report Ahri cant mid"
Grand Master - "butteHURT [Jarvan IV]: gg noobs"
Legendary - I'm gonna go play something else.

[frostshotgg]

Food for thought: The only thing Zilean gets from upgrading his R is +25 mana cost and +250 hp restored. It's almost detrimental to upgrade R, particularly since his other skills get so much better with ranks.

[Unusedname]

Food for thought: The only thing Zilean gets from upgrading his R is +25 mana cost and +250 hp restored. It's almost detrimental to upgrade R, particularly since his other skills get so much better with ranks.

Ah this is something I get to consider now that new support items give me infinite gold and I actually get to build some AP

[Sharp]

So I have been having an easy time going Eve this patch. It's pretty hard to try and defend against me and even when I am spotted coming in from a gank because of the ward I just get to kill the ward and come again a minute later.

I think they need to buff vision wards, I would say give them 10 hitpoints which they can regenerate over 30 seconds (0.3 hp per second) or give them 30 hitpoints, that way they are actually objectives which can be placed and challenged as well as defended. 7 hitpoints is pretty hard to defend when it can just be poked down from range. Making them go invisible again would just force supports to go vision ward wars again, supports are actually fun to play in this patch but stealth champs are pretty strong at the moment.

[Skyrunner]

I really hate Evelynn this patch. It's pretty impossible to defend against her ganks, like you said.

[webadict]

I really hate Evelynn this patch. It's pretty impossible to defend against her ganks, like you said.

Start learning to read ganks

Food for thought: The only thing Zilean gets from upgrading his R is +25 mana cost and +250 hp restored. It's almost detrimental to upgrade R, particularly since his other skills get so much better with ranks.

A similar thing happened with Janna before a change to her ult. She used to get +75 mana cost for more health healed. this was far more detrimental to her.

[Mesa]

Meh, I still think I'll pass, and I have one good reason.
I have developed notorious anger management issues (mostly from Awesomenauts, oddly enough, but also from TF2) - basically a match in which I don't rage(quit) (and don't stomp the other team) is a miracle.

This pretty much means that I'd ditch the game really quickly.
I may be stuck with that anti-LoL propaganda stuff, but MOBAs are very rage-inducing almost by nature, and if Awesomenauts has taught me anything it would be that I'd need to spend a lot of time to get used to all the BS around.

In short - my nerves are too easily grated for that.

[webadict]

Meh, I still think I'll pass, and I have one good reason.
I have developed notorious anger management issues (mostly from Awesomenauts, oddly enough, but also from TF2) - basically a match in which I don't rage(quit) (and don't stomp the other team) is a miracle.

This pretty much means that I'd ditch the game really quickly.
I may be stuck with that anti-LoL propaganda stuff, but MOBAs are very rage-inducing almost by nature, and if Awesomenauts has taught me anything it would be that I'd need to spend a lot of time to get used to all the BS around.

In short - my nerves are too easily grated for that.

If they're too easily grated, I think that's a good idea. It's a fun game, don't get me wrong, but it takes a lot of time to get used to the fact that not everything is in your power, and that sometimes your team really does make you lose. If you can't focus on yourself and what you're doing wrong, you'll get frustrated easily. I know I used to do that plenty, and it took some time to really ease my anger issues. HOWEVER, I used LoL as the medium to test that, wherein I would see myself getting angry, take a few deep breaths, and keep going. It's like learning from your mistakes, only this time your anger is part of that.

And I still get mad at my team, even now. But, just laugh it off. Or, take some breaths. Or, just punch a pillow or something. Your anger being vented toward your teammates won't help them play. In fact, it might make them play worse. Overall, it's another skill to learn, and if you want to play with people that won't yell at you (Usually), I'd be willing to play with you. You can even listen to my friends and I talk during the game. That's what typically keeps me from being angry.

[Neonivek]

Don't worry Dark I can think of QUITE A FEW PEOPLE who really should stop playing League of Legends as much as they do.

[webadict]

Don't worry Dark I can think of QUITE A FEW PEOPLE who really should stop playing League of Legends as much as they do.

[All] GGGGGGG STUPID FKING NOOB SUPPORT CAN'T EEVN WARD ONY HAS THREE ON MAP GGGGGGGGGGGGG REPROT PLZ

[Chaoswizkid]

my uncl is prheak, ggnoob get permbaaned

[webadict]

my uncl is prheak, ggnoob get permbaaned

idc this is my 16 act i just make a new 1 wen i get band cu in tribnual i reprot u 2

[Seriyu]

I hate to interrupt a good pubbie bashing (and if there's any game that deserves it it's... well it's MOBAs in general let's be fair), but I've decided to jump back in!

Bought a bunch of 450 champions because I had some IP and I think the reason I stopped before was because I just kind've jumped into Garen and never got out for some reason, which is uncharacteristically single minded of me. Probably didn't help I don't do terribly well as him.

So, I tried a few others, and master yi. I quite like master yi, and I seem to be doing pretty well with him to boot (in bot matches admittedly but), then again I've also heard he's... above average to put it politely! So maybe it's that. Either way.

Now, I'm pretty sure he's an ADC, yeah? I've heard he can jungle a bit too, are there any "side builds" I'm missing? Any general advice? I seem to do pretty well with just alpha strike and wuju style honestly. This would also be my first jungler, and any attempt at jungling during the bot matches basically lead to me moving into a lane where someone was having trouble early on anyway, so I didn't get a lot of practice.

So yeah, tl;dr: Master yi = ADC carry/jungler/(anything else I should know about), maybe overpowered, I'd also like some jungling advice in general, if I ever decide to give it a shot. Thanks in advance!