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[lemon10]

You will never get nearly enough IP to play properly without: buying RP's, using a single hero role (eventually you can play a few more, but that takes quite a while), or not using proper runes for your role.
So you are stuck playing sub-optimally, or just playing the same few heroes over and over again.

Yes, if you play a tens of thousands of matches you can get every hero and every set of runes. But that is still tens of thousands of matches where you have to accept annoying arbitrary restrictions.

This is the single most important reason why I now play DOTA instead of LoL.
EDIT: It also encourages smurfing, since you can play low level games without having to spend +10000 IP for a full runepage or be at a disadvantage.

[frostshotgg]

Over the course of around 2 years, I've accrued 300k IP. Someone want to figure out what that's worth?

[Chaoswizkid]

^ How do you check how much IP you've ever earned, or is that just a rough estimate?

I'm doing just fine for my League experience without paying money. The only thing I've ever paid money for was Arcade Sona because I told Riot that if they ever released DJ Sona that I would buy it and it was close enough. Other than that, I've got 3 rune pages (which I either started out with 3, or bought one with the free RP from the Seasons ending and not being a jerk, or whatever it is that you shouldn't do in order to get free RP every season), and I'm cool with that.

[frostshotgg]

kassad.in

[Flying Dice]

Yeah, I've spent ~$15 on RP to buy up a couple spare rune pages and some champions I enjoyed while they're on sale, and I've got enough left over to buy 2-3 more champs (with the right sales) or 2 rune pages. By the time I hit level 30 I'm confident that I'll have a cadre of 8-10 champions with runes for most of them and enough pages for at least half of them, and that's all I really need. I don't have a problem with a small infusion of cash (generally $20 or less) when I'm first getting started with a free MP game, and anything I spend beyond that is solely because I enjoy the game enough to invest more in it.

[ZetaX]

How many EUW LoL players are there, by the wayż Haven't seen many in this thread...

You will never get nearly enough IP to play properly without: buying RP's, using a single hero role (eventually you can play a few more, but that takes quite a while), or not using proper runes for your role.

That's just wrong. Without ever paying anything I currently own 9 rune pages (from free RP + special offers) and have 230000 IP left (which would also easily buy me those pages if needed). Those 9 have so far sufficed for several roles, and would especially suffice for all but the most extreme cases if I would focus on just a single role. I haven't even played that many games (~2500 in total, I think), every serious player probably played way more. With that IP I could buy essentially all missing heroes fitting into one of the five roles and some more runes.

[Sharp]

You will never get nearly enough IP to play properly without: buying RP's, using a single hero role (eventually you can play a few more, but that takes quite a while), or not using proper runes for your role.

I haven't bought any RP, the free RP you can get just in the normal course of playing I spent on one skin.

Tbh I don't have runes to cover all the bases but tbh it's easy to adjust playstyle to fit with the runes you have, you really only need 3 generic rune pages then you can alter your masteries and the items you buy in-game around that.

[Frumple]

I haven't even played that many games (~2500 in total, I think), every serious player probably played way more.

... that's definitely "many", Z. Even if the crazies are playing more, lowballing that at 20 minutes per game on average comes up to over 800 hours sunk into Lol. That's more than a solid month of constant play. That would definitely be what you'd call "many games".

Over the past couple of years I think I've played... hell, maybe a hundred, two hundred games? That's still a bunch and very hefty time investment.

[Flying Dice]

Man, if we're going by that standard, then I'm fucked up. If I really lowball things I'd say I've put about 3,500 hours into Halo 3 over the course of many years in the past, and that's just counting the matchmade and custom games, not the excruciating many-hour Legendary difficulty all-skulls 4-player campaign runs. What I'm saying is that while 2500's a substantial sum of matches, it's very, very far from crazy territory. S'all relative, I suppose.

But basically with F2P games that aren't outright P2W, you can get everything sooner or later. And frankly, with some of the crap I've seen in "free" games, I'm hardly inclined to quibble about it being slightly faster for people who pump a bunch of cash into the game to get full rune pages. It'd be a problem if, for example, there were RP-only level 4 runes, but like this? Meh.

[Frumple]

Yeah, you loco bruddah.

... nah, I could just be underestimating things.

Personally, though, if a person's sunk more than a few days, maybe a week or two, of active game time into a single game I'd be saying something has gone sideways. Either they're playing it over a very extended period, there's something either bloody incredible (which may include replayability!) or massively addicting (which tails in the last point) about the game, or they're kinda' bugnuts for whatever reason. That 3.5k hours would probably fall under "very extended period" (though naturally, that's "includes, but is not limited to"). Because if it were over the course of a single year? You'd be spending something like one every three hours -- not even waking hours, mind, but hours period -- or so (very rough figure) playing Halo 3. And, I'm sorry. Someone that does that is flippin' insane. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing or whatever, but clearly crazy is clearly crazy.

[Skyrunner]

So no tournament interest?

[Frumple]

Ah, right.

... as with the DotA2 one, I'd probably be able to offer up a body for the grinder. M'just, y'know, kinda' terrible.

[Flying Dice]

So no tournament interest?

Looks like. Might have been pushed out of view by other chatter, though.

Yeah, you loco bruddah.

... nah, I could just be underestimating things.

Personally, though, if a person's sunk more than a few days, maybe a week or two, of active game time into a single game I'd be saying something has gone sideways. Either they're playing it over a very extended period, there's something either bloody incredible (which may include replayability!) or massively addicting (which tails in the last point) about the game, or they're kinda' bugnuts for whatever reason. That 3.5k hours would probably fall under "very extended period" (though naturally, that's "includes, but is not limited to"). Because if it were over the course of a single year? You'd be spending something like one every three hours -- not even waking hours, mind, but hours period -- or so (very rough figure) playing Halo 3. And, I'm sorry. Someone that does that is flippin' insane. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing or whatever, but clearly crazy is clearly crazy.

Nah, it was from a period roughly covering 2008-2011, and around 3/5ths of that was me tooling around in customs with my friends, where we'd basically hang out and talk while cycling through different game modes. That much time on any game in a year is bloody nutso. Hell, that much time on a SP game/a MP game that you don't have any friends in is equally crazy. I've only logged something like 800 hours on CS:S, and that's by far my most-played PC game, with the vast majority of my play being on a handful of servers where I was a part of the circle of long-time regulars.

Basically, if you have a ton of hours on a game, either you're obsessed or you played it for years (possibly with your buddies). 

[da dwarf lord]

I've played something like 1500 games (total) over 22 months, which averages out to 2-3 games a day, and I only spend about 1-2 hours a night playing, to wind down, so there is nothing wrong with 3500 hours over 5ish years. RE: tourney play, I would but I'm OCE

[Kansa]

Well if we don't get enough for the tournament we could always try and set up a team instead