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Author Topic: League of Legends - Patch 7.22 - Runes Reforged  (Read 1287256 times)

Wiles

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Re: League of Legends - S3 - Patch 3.06 Freljord
« Reply #11700 on: June 21, 2013, 07:18:07 am »

Also, why doesn't anyone play Skarner? I haven't seen anyone else play him, but he's a fun champ with an awesome ult.

He was very popular in S2. I used to play him a lot, he just didn't feel as strong in S3. Not that I find him to be weak, but he did get knocked down a rung. Smart positioning makes him a lot less threatening, especially if your team has any form of roots. I find him to be more team reliant then someone like say Vi, who fills a similar role to Skarner.
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Re: League of Legends - S3 - Patch 3.06 Freljord
« Reply #11701 on: June 21, 2013, 07:46:00 am »

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Why would you redact everyone else's name but keep your own? so easy to see who your playing with, especially that masked guy...

Anyway Skarner is a pretty slow ganker, his main use is being a good tower diver or doing flash pulls to friendly towers but he is pretty shit at actual ganking and he doesn't really do a lot of damage. Most of the times when skarner ganks me before level 6 it's pretty easy just to ignore him or retreat, then after level 6 be ready to flash if he tries to flash ult.

For a tanky champ he doesn't do a lot of damage and doesn't have a lot of CC and doesn't have a good engage, Rammus and Naut are much better alternatives and can actually gank before level 6.
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Re: League of Legends - S3 - Patch 3.06 Freljord
« Reply #11702 on: June 21, 2013, 11:57:58 am »

This morning I was having a couple nice games : first I had to go mid for a change (instead of ADC bot), and played Kassadin (unranked soloqueue), which resulted in a 9/0/6 score for me and a win. I decided to push my luck a bit and play a ranked game (soloqueue still).

I managed to pick Kassadin again, but the enemy team countered me with Fizz ! I was panicking a bit (I had all sorts of bad previous experiences with Fizz), so I read a bit about how to play the lane while the map was loading... Turns out, after a couple exchanges, I managed to kill Fizz once, then again, and again... He never got a kill on me and I was able to gank sidelanes quite easily. I was 9/0 when I eventually died 1v1 from the fed enemy draven, but it wasn't that big of a deal, at this point I had already snowballed and we won.

Then I played another unranked solo game and picked my main (tristana adc), while most of my team kinda trollpicked (well I guess me too since there was already someone playing adc caitlyn). I was expecting Caitlyn to play with me bot, but instead she said she hated my guts and went top with kat. Thankfully, the other team was trollpicking as well, so I ended up 1v2 against Yi and Nunu. At lvl 2 they decided to tower dive me, but I managed to grab a double kill :p. After that I just bullied them thanks to my range, and grabbed kill after kill, dying only a couple times from ganks. I snowballed super hard on this one, so my final score was 19/2/5 (and we won of course). I guess Caitlyn still hated me, given how she was trying to take CS or kills from me at every turn (too bad she didn't succeed :D). I could tell that Yi and Nunu got scared of me quite a bit though, every time I went after them they ran away despite being full hp and having managed to score kills on my teammates, and every time they died :D.

Having games like these after a bad streak is really good for my morale !
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Re: League of Legends - S3 - Patch 3.06 Freljord
« Reply #11703 on: June 25, 2013, 07:02:52 pm »

 I finally plucked up the guts to start my promotion series. Crushed the Ezrael-Leona lane with Taric (ok, some help from Graves), took tower, dragon, win a team fight 4 for 1, then I get dc'ed and can't log back in.. team was 18 - 9 up, but lose because the ISP related dc took out 2 of us (I get a leave on my record for extra fun). Well played, EUW servers, well played (assist gold claimed by my ISP, virgin media).
 Sorry, just had to rant to get it out of my system.

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Re: League of Legends - S3 - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade
« Reply #11704 on: June 25, 2013, 07:58:43 pm »

@ Jarvan top, I find that your best route is rushing Blade of the Ruined King and building bruiser from there. So basically, my Jarvan top build is Blade of the Ruined King, Berserker's Greaves (or defensive boots if they hurt that much), Sunfire, Randuins, and then whatever else you want. Maybe throw in a Hexdrinker if they're heavy on magic damage. That build will actually work in higher level games, too. Your other option in terms of offense is to either go Bloodthirster (for 1 on 1 power) or Ravenous Hydra (more overall map presence). It varies from game to game but J4 top is actually something I'm working on to take into 5v5 premades, it can work :).

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Granted it might have just been luck but I'll find out in time, I do expect a nerf to him, either his sustain or his damage potential as right now he can far too easily tank trough being focused if not constantly CC'ed, even then there's a high chance they'll forget about you once your passive kicks in allowing you to either escape or try and deal some more damage.

I also have tried and faced Aatrox, and honestly, he's a bit underwhelming right now. Basically everyone can dump on him in lane and in teamfights he'll be shut down very quickly. I feel like he could be very strong but just isn't quite there yet.

In other news, I cleaned up and updated the OP, and at the bottom of the OP is a google doc where everyone can add their summoner names for easier access to other Bay 12 League of Legends players. My list was very outdated and this one will be easier to maintain.

Another link to it.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11705 on: June 25, 2013, 08:19:07 pm »

The question is why take J4 top instead of jungle? I find he's much more flexible there.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11706 on: June 25, 2013, 08:24:25 pm »

The question is why take J4 top instead of jungle? I find he's much more flexible there.

You're right, and that's why he's not usually played top. However, he does a ton of early game damage and can destroy many of the squishier top lane opponents with his early free stats, gap closer, and armor shred. For this reason he's also an incredibly powerful mid.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11707 on: June 25, 2013, 09:16:08 pm »

If I wanted to abuse a squishy top like that, I think my go-to would be Wukong, or maybe da Lee Singah. Or Jayce, who dominates every matchup anyways.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11708 on: June 26, 2013, 05:04:17 am »

Xin Zhao is probably one of the best all-rounder tops in the game, his early game damage is so strong he can bully most champs out of lane. It feels glorious bullying Teemos out of lane, tastes like justice.

Aatrox can be very powerful, his passive is more annoying then Zac's/Anivia's as it can allow him to escape easily but he is another champ who can be bullied very early, however if he gets a bit of a lead he can snowball dangerously because of his crazy sustain. You need lots of CC or Executioners Calling or Morellonomicon to counter him.

I did have a hilarious time of using Rammus to counter him so when he had Blood Price on and I taunted him he did a lot of damage to himself but it's hard to time, Aatrox gets stronger in early-mid when he gets lifesteal, but then Rammus gets stronger once Morellonomicon is built though even with it Aatrox still heals for big amounts.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11709 on: June 26, 2013, 05:45:26 am »

If I wanted to abuse a squishy top like that, I think my go-to would be Wukong, or maybe da Lee Singah. Or Jayce, who dominates every matchup anyways.


MANTHEON! Is a good choice as well.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11710 on: June 26, 2013, 10:26:15 am »

Of course, one could simply want to play J4, or be really good at him, its better to play someone you're skilled at then to chose a champion simply because of their character strengths. In the case of jayce, someone might go j4 instead if their team is lacking cc. J4 also has a better late game than panth (mainly due to the aforementioned cc).
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Re: League of Legends - S3 - Patch 3.06 Freljord
« Reply #11711 on: June 27, 2013, 02:46:19 pm »

I finally plucked up the guts to start my promotion series. Crushed the Ezrael-Leona lane with Taric (ok, some help from Graves), took tower, dragon, win a team fight 4 for 1, then I get dc'ed and can't log back in.. team was 18 - 9 up, but lose because the ISP related dc took out 2 of us (I get a leave on my record for extra fun). Well played, EUW servers, well played (assist gold claimed by my ISP, virgin media).
 Sorry, just had to rant to get it out of my system.

Update - technical issues be damned, I won the next 3 games in the series and am now a proud member of Silver V, Maokai's Musketeers!


I've been trying to write up my games as I go along, here's what I made of the last game of the series - the closest one of the lot, the others were fairly one-way stomps:
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Rough early game with Draven vs Tristana/Sona. We died 3 times, first Draven a couple of times from surprising Tristana damage output, then me as I stayed in lane too long trying to defend the tower. Criticism from volibear all game, war of words between Draven and him - Voli wouldn't gank without wards, but it was hard to get wards out under so much pressure, being forced to turret farm for an extended period. Even with a pink in the river brush, Voli didn't gank - he complained that we were pushing the lane (not really true - it was pushing up from Draven last hitting normally). Things turned around later after Tristana took the tower, we got a 2 for 1 on them, losing Draven. Volibear had another rage fest when he overextended into their jungle behind bot lane turret and we didn't back him up quick enough.
 We would manage to take bot tower, then pushed mid, acing the enemy and finally taking the inhib. However, Voli/Wukong stayed too long in enemy jungle, getting caught when enemy respawned, allowing them to take Baron. Later on, myself and Draven capitalised on action in the top lane to take bottom inhib. We just seemed to have control of the map once their inhibs were down, and would take the nexus after a final ace.
 Notable moment: got commended by Draven for saving him from Jayce in a team fight - I stunned Jayce, and possibly healed Draven (don't remember) - Jayce killed me but Draven got him.
 In summary - my lane lost, but other lanes all won. Tristana finished 10/8/5, Sona 0/5/14, next best was Jayce 4/7/5, Vi jungle 1/7/3 and Gragas 2/6/6.

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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11712 on: June 28, 2013, 06:11:32 am »

Ahahaha Oceanic servers kthxbai I'll never see you guys ever again on NA bai!
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11713 on: June 28, 2013, 07:45:27 am »

Transfering to Oceanic Servers will net you Pool Party Ziggs and Ziggs himself if you don't have them. However, right now apparently the queue times are abysmal. I've also been told that they're being a bit more loose with the matchmaking to alleviate some of the problems, which means you might be horribly outclassed if you're a bronze/silver player and hop over.
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Re: League of Legends - Patch 3.08 - Aatrox, the Darkin Blade - Revised OP
« Reply #11714 on: June 28, 2013, 09:24:35 am »

Having a look at the oceania client to check out all the vault/retired skins since they're still showing atm and I only started at the start of the year, and I've found a placeholder image for a Scorched Earth Renekton. Is it presumptuous to jump to the obvious conclusion?
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