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[Jar of Jam]

Oh god, riot, why.

I didn't even notice Thresh's login music when he came out, but now it is the music of my nightmares.

Cling, clang, go the chains. Someone's out to fiiind you. Cling, clang, oh the chains, the warden's right behiiind you...
*SHUDDER*

It's spooktacularly adorable. I have to use it in my Thresh games sometimes

[Jopax]

So I bought Draven on a whim the other day, ever since I haven't been able to get a decent game with him, it's either trolls, leavers, a combination of both or simply people sucking so bad it can't be salvaged.

God damn it people, I'm just trying to get the hang this dude why must you make it so difficult :C

[Orangebottle]

So I bought Draven on a whim the other day, ever since I haven't been able to get a decent game with him, it's either trolls, leavers, a combination of both or simply people sucking so bad it can't be salvaged.

God damn it people, I'm just trying to get the hang this dude why must you make it so difficult :C

Not Draven!
Draaaayven.

To be honest, it depends on the time of day, sometimes. And other times, you're just not lucky.

Draven does require a bit of practice; you have to keep your Q up, but you also need to know when to let an axe go.

[Graven]

Wolves vs EG on the eu LCS just ended and was insane. Watch it as soon as you can, because god damn.

http://vods.leaguepedia.com/wolves-vs-lcs-2013-eu-spring-w6d2/

This is the vod, I think.

[penguinofhonor]

I stand by my statement that old Karma could be fine, she just needed her numbers to reflect that she didn't have an ult.

Well considering they playtested powered up old Karma and you didn't, I'm going to have to believe them over you.

[frostshotgg]

I stand by my statement that old Karma could be fine, she just needed her numbers to reflect that she didn't have an ult.

Well considering they playtested powered up old Karma and you didn't, I'm going to have to believe them over you.

Where's that from? I don't recall seeing anything about them testing buffed old karma. I know I missed some stuff with the rework, mind linking it?

[Jopax]

I think he's using the reasoning that they tried that because just changing numbers around is much less work than changing the whole champion.

[frostshotgg]

That and the fact that there's less flak for seriously buffing a champ like Shen got.

[Virex]

I think he's using the reasoning that they tried that because just changing numbers around is much less work than changing the whole champion.

The problem is that any buff would make her seriously unstable since she's either useless alone, or she's good alone and explodes when the team works well with her.

[frostshotgg]

Ah, that makes sense. It applies to a lot of supports, but I guess you could take exception at Karma since she can be downright terrifying with a team who knows what they're doing, even in her present state. That clothesline most of all. It's either a teamwide ms buff/nerf and 400 damage aoe, or it's completely useless.

[Graven]

So, y'all know them Taipei Assassin guys, who have 20 wins and 0 losses? I decided to go check out what the hell they were doing, being s2 world champions and all... so I thought I'd check out one of their games against Singapore Sentinels, the number two team in the garena pro league.

TPA ran 4 supports and a Vayne, with Toyz going ap Janna mid vs a Khazix and Stanley running a 1v2 Lulu against a Zyra and Caitlyn combo 

It wasn't even that interesting of a game, just 20 minutes of TPA getting destroyed, then 20 more minutes of them going 8/1 on Vayne and 5/1 on Janna... I can't even tell how good they are, since the game was just... off. SGS went for some really stupid baron attempts, and the teamfights were weird and daymn. Might have to watch some more in the hope of seeing a more standard game, just so I can compare them to the eu teams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaMSL2kCEhs
 
This is the game, but again, not very interesting in itself.

[penguinofhonor]

TRUNDLE TWEAKSSS AND VISUAL UPGRADEEEEE

Not gonna lie, I'm not sure if I'm entirely comfortable with this one. Trundle's being changed way more drastically than Karma or Sejuani - it's like he's an entirely different species of troll now.

Okay, I'm mostly just sad that they changed his hair.

[Graven]

And  hints of the third Ashe sister [Lissandra] and possibly another ice-based caster.

And the new Trundle looks generic and leaves me apathetic.

[penguinofhonor]

I've been seeing overwhelmingly positive reactions to him. Like, there's way less negative stuff than there was for Karma or Sejuani. Strange.

Also it seems that the context IronStylus was talking about for the Sejuani visual stuff wasn't actually mechanical reworks - it was a big ass Frelijord event. We're going to be getting two visual reworks, a new champion, and a new map out of it. Before now I just thought this was for Sejuani and the Howling Abyss, but it's clearly much larger than that.

[frostshotgg]

I'm interested to see just what trundle's rework will change with him. Right now he's really suffering from the fact that he's designed to counter S2 style 900/900 resists + only a little hp tanks as opposed to latter day low resist-super high hp tanks we get now. I'd think that making his R do % max hp instead of the flat value it is now, and taking off those godawful lockouts on... basically all of his skills would make him quite strong, if not completely overwhelmingly strong. I do hope he keeps his current passive, and the general idea of "debuff ALL the things" theme he has going right now.