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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11145 on: February 24, 2013, 05:04:20 pm »

The game between AAA and Giants reminded me of another thing which is only made worse by the over-abundance of wards - poke comps. Hoooly shit do I wish I had anything else to do except watch this game.

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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11146 on: February 24, 2013, 05:25:09 pm »

Hoooly shit do I wish I had anything else to do except watch this game.

What. You must have some kind of amazing powers of self-deception in order to convince yourself that there is only one thing that you could possibly do with your time.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11147 on: February 24, 2013, 09:13:09 pm »

 I just watched that last game, I agree that it wasn't exactly action-packed, perhaps down to the slow-roll style. But can you really say AAA were playing a poke comp?
AAA's picks: Sona, Vi, Nidalee, Ezrael, Renekton
Giant's picks: Xin Zhao, Zyra, Caitlyn, Volibear, Twisted Fate
   
 It seems like a regular team that happens to have Nidalee. Stealing the second blue buff allowed her to get an early seraph's embrace - her poke carried the late game, so that's what people will remember about it.
 Perhaps I'm splitting hairs here, but the poke comps I've seen before have generally had a second source of poke (Lux, Kog Maw, Jayce) along with a stronger disengage (Trundle, Janna). With two "dive buddies" in Vi and Renekton, AAA were fairly mobile and bruiserish, they were quite happy for Giants to jump on them. The classic poke comp hardly ever gets into team-fights, and just drops some overpowered disengage whenever things get hairy. AAA's was a more aggressive approach - try to land a spear, then dive in to finish off the victim.

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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11148 on: February 25, 2013, 02:20:23 am »

... a regular team that just happens to have Nidalee, Ezreal, and Sona, all great pokers? They don't need a big disengage because all of them have their own disengages, even Vi and Renekton.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11149 on: February 25, 2013, 05:49:37 am »

Their playstyle late game revolved entirely around Nidalee; not only that, but as penguin said they had Ez and Sona. Maybe it wasn't a true full-poke comp, but they played it as one, and it was so boring to watch. I believe in teamfights Giants were the stronger, and when Nono inevitably got caught they outplayed AAA, but they always had one of their carries at a quarter health from the spear spam, so they never got a true teamfight.

Riot really needs to do something about dem wards, though. It's absurd, and only helps cement the winning team's position. I'd love to see more uncertainty with ganks and late-game jungle.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11150 on: February 25, 2013, 06:09:41 am »

Suddenly people in NA and EU are starting to notice that WE hasn't lost a set of games/match to anyone since the World Championship. And if it weren't for the remake/internet issues, they might have not been dropped there either.

WE might very well be the scariest team in the world at the moment.

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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11151 on: February 25, 2013, 06:11:20 am »

Does anyone else think Diana is ridiculously powerful?
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11152 on: February 25, 2013, 06:16:52 am »

No? Not since the nerfs?

She was nerfed into the ground so hard that even Riot reversed some of them. She still maintains a bit below 50% win rate. She has nothing on her old power, when she was constantly 55%+ winrate.

Her kit is good, but yeah, unless you bring the skill she's not anywhere near the monster she was.

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« Reply #11153 on: February 25, 2013, 06:26:00 am »

Huh, I must be naturally good with her then  ???
I consistently get >25 kills and <10 deaths with her
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11154 on: February 25, 2013, 07:41:48 am »

Diana isn't op, Elise is op, I think her cooldowns between forms should be linked so she can't just do 6 abilities in a row. She can spam spells quicker then Ryze at lvl 3.
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« Reply #11155 on: February 25, 2013, 08:45:24 am »

I'm not sure if Elise is OP. Yeah, she can be very strong when played by a skilled player and built right, but her mana costs prevent her from spamming 24/7 in human form and spider form isn't very effective early till you get some tankiness and more damage items.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11156 on: February 25, 2013, 10:01:05 am »

She is probably the best jungler in the game at the moment, she can clear jungle early super quick with her W which not only gives her a better attack speed bonus then Xin Zhao but heals her 4 (+2%AP) health for every hit she and her spiderlings make, and her spiderlings will tank damage from jungle so she doesn't need to start building any items to help her jungle. And then she has a nice long range gank and then she can stun straight away.

Oh and champions can teleport to her spiderlings so she doesn't even need wards to get teammates to go to her and she can chase target while team teleports in.

The mana cost increases were a needed nerf to her seeing as her Q does crazy damage but because she can be in spider form from the start she is still deadly even with low mana.

Elise laning is tough but not impossible to beat but an Elise jungler is always crazy strong, she can clear jungle so fast she can get her double buffs up and still have time to gank enemy jungler at their second buff.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11157 on: February 25, 2013, 10:11:57 am »

Diana isn't OP, just a good champion.

But yea Elise is really annoying to be against. She can gank and counterjungle so easily that it's not even funny, and once she gets a couple kills under her belt she really snowballs out of control. I'm just glad that i don't play against her that often.
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Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« Reply #11158 on: February 25, 2013, 11:57:28 am »

Elise isn't the best jungle by any stretch. Lee, Olaf, Vi off the top of my head. Elise's strength is her flexibility, but she's mediocre at everything. She's not fast, she's not deadly without a teammate, she's completely average.
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« Reply #11159 on: February 25, 2013, 12:13:54 pm »

Q dmg+8% max health, Q dmg+8% missing health, that on it's own is enough to do lots of damage and then bring on the spiderlings.

Vi is also quite powerful in jungle, much more then Lee and Olaf but Elise jungle just has the crazy clear speed and easy escape if she ever gets too far for her own good.
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