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Author Topic: League of Legends - Patch 7.22 - Runes Reforged  (Read 1286569 times)

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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Preseason 3 Overhaul
« Reply #10725 on: December 24, 2012, 12:23:47 pm »

So, you guys remember how Panth's only weakness was his mediocre lategame in S2?

That's kinda gone now, motherfucker's strong as hell what with people rarely bothering with armor and the abundant Arpen items, he still deals crazy shit damage early game, only this now translates into mid and lategame too.

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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Preseason 3 Overhaul
« Reply #10726 on: December 24, 2012, 12:35:53 pm »

Hey, good news for me then. I just bought Pantheon and I found him kind of weak before. I wonder how he plays after the update?
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« Reply #10727 on: December 24, 2012, 02:25:18 pm »

Twitch was definitely hurt by the rework. He lost a metric fuckton of damage off his E, which he only gets back when he has something like 200 bonus AD. The "oh but now he keeps his passive stacks so its ok" argument is utter bullshit. One of the most useful skills when playing old twitch was being able to time his E for after you'd gotten as much out of his passive as possible. His passive also did more damage, so even if you missed slightly you'd still get more out of it.
He doesn't deal shitloads of damage, not any more than he used to, and especially not before teamfights. He traded a lot of free roaming for a little MS that lasts for a short time and still can't be used as an escape. Oh, and his W got butchered. Instead of slowing entire teams, now it's a slow as fuck skillshot  with a tiny AoE that slows for less time and is a weaker slow.
His ult may or may not have been nerfed, depending on how you view it. On one side, he can shoot off as many of those shots as he liked. On the flip side, 7 shots was usually enough to end a teamfight, and he did lose a little range and damage off of it.
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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Preseason 3 Overhaul
« Reply #10728 on: December 24, 2012, 02:56:47 pm »

OK, I think I remember why I redownloaded. It's Cassiopeia. Anything changed with her itemization now that Season 3 has come?

Pantheon I actually found most fun to play when Heartseeker Strike was nerfed to hell. Just chuck the spears and bonk people in the head sometimes, that was really surprisingly cool.
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« Reply #10729 on: December 24, 2012, 03:28:09 pm »

Well you can still do that stuff to great effect, but HS is now rather crazy good when you get Black Cleaver, seeing as it will do an AoE reduction of armor by some 19% then you chuck a spear and a quarter of someone's armor is gone, then you hit them and they die. Seriously, and now he's viable as a tanky fuck too since you don't need to invest so much into damage items (BC and Infinty/BT are plenty, then if you take FM and Atma you'll get both a nice damage and survivability boost, or if you want, add in Malmortius for extra damage and tankiness)
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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Preseason 3 Overhaul
« Reply #10730 on: December 24, 2012, 03:51:01 pm »

Eh... Cass is quite the same. You might want to look into Tear though. AA gets an upgrade at full stacks now.
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« Reply #10731 on: December 24, 2012, 04:44:46 pm »

Tear punches your early-midgame in the face, though.
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« Reply #10732 on: December 24, 2012, 05:45:18 pm »

Cass can charge it fast enough that you can afford to get it around the 15 minute mark easily.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and haunting guise has an upgrade. It's kinda cool. You might want to look into that too.
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« Reply #10733 on: December 24, 2012, 07:03:31 pm »

So last game, we had a big fight in their jungle, I'm the only one out of my team left there (Kata is running down mid to help) being chased by Olaf while chasing a nearly dead Rengar. Run out of the bush while charging my Q and fire it away to the left, the only possible direction he could have went. Suddenly I kill him mid air with my fucking FALCON PUNCH.
 
Poor bastard ulted thinking he could kill me that way, oh well, atleast it was amusing to witness :D
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« Reply #10734 on: December 24, 2012, 07:18:01 pm »

Cass can charge it fast enough that you can afford to get it around the 15 minute mark easily.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and haunting guise has an upgrade. It's kinda cool. You might want to look into that too.

Well, she does want some mana regeneration. I used to go Double Doran for that, but that probably doesn't work anymore. Chalice -> Grail is a bit of overkill, but allows you to spam your skills hard, which is cool as soon as you go for that Hextech Revolver. Hard sustain Cass, yo.
Or should you get Faerie Charm and Flask, then some other stuff?

In my opinion Cass always has two ways to build and spec. The first one focuses on the early, pre-6 pressure, and the second is a safer, lategame-farming kind of thing. I'd get Tear if I went for the second option, I think, but it would have to compete with Catalyst, too. (Or I'd buy both. Hurrrrr.) The shield isn't something she can use optimally either.

I'm really ambivalent about the Haunting Guise upgrade. It does sound neat at first, but I don't think it brings much to the table for her especially when bursting someone down. The burn damage you'll get is pittance. And the flat magic pen got nerfed across the board. Sadness.
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« Reply #10735 on: December 24, 2012, 08:40:09 pm »

The burn is probably most suited for AP-heavy champions with strong harassing capabilities, like Kennen or Fiddle. They'll be hitting the tanks pretty often in the buildup to a team fight. But even then the amount of damage you'll get out of it is still pretty lousy.
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« Reply #10736 on: December 24, 2012, 09:42:48 pm »

I think I enjoy playing Soraka more than you're supposed to. Delicious, delicious sustain.
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« Reply #10737 on: December 25, 2012, 03:44:15 am »

If you are playing Soraka why are you not playing BATTLE SORAKA?
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« Reply #10738 on: December 25, 2012, 05:11:12 am »

Probably because half my champions are traditional mids anyway.

I do tend to be too poke-aggressive for my own good, though.
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Re: League of Legends Updated! - Preseason 3 Overhaul
« Reply #10739 on: December 25, 2012, 05:56:35 pm »

I have to say, currently I feel like stacking Dorans as an AD or AP carry just isn't useful anymore. Especially with the new vamp scepter. If you're stacking Dorans Blade, it's more gold efficient to get a vamp scepter- if you're getting doran's ring, it's better to get an amp tome.

I'm not saying anything against actually getting the first dorans, the mana/life is pretty good. But stacking it just doesn't seem a good idea anymore.
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