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[frostshotgg]

I actually kinda like that. However, if Sion ever gets remade, I can almost guarantee that he'll lose his infinity. Riot has a really big issue with infinity.

[penguinofhonor]

You can't get rid of AP Sion. That's the biggest problem with a Sion remake. There are existing players that love the existing builds, and you can't just tell half of them to suck it up.

They're willing piss off current players of certain champions who are really problematic, like Evelynn, but Sion isn't harmful enough to make that necessary.

[Frumple]

Maybe just say "buggerit" and roll the E damage into an AP scaling thing? Something pretty low (tlvl/100? 1 AD per 20 AP at 5/5? Base 5/tlvl plus that?), but there. Make sion an AP melee bruiser or somethin'.

[frostshotgg]

You can't get rid of AP Sion. That's the biggest problem with a Sion remake. There are existing players that love the existing builds, and you can't just tell half of them to suck it up.

They're willing piss off current players of certain champions who are really problematic, like Evelynn, but Sion isn't harmful enough to make that necessary.

Trust me, they are. Riot has repeatedly said, "If we need to take an alternate playstyle out to improve the main part of a champion, we'll do it. We'd like to keep alternate playstyles, but we won't balance around them" or so. See: AP Trynd, AP Irelia, AD Kat.

I honestly wouldn't mind see AP Sion go. I would like to see a real passive before a full rework, thought.

[penguinofhonor]

AP Irelia lasted about a week, so it didn't really get as solidified as the other off-builds. They've repeatedly stated they regret ruining AP Trynd as much as they did, and they were fine with killing AD Kat since she was basically just AP Kat with different items. She didn't actually play any differently.

AP Sion plays completely differently than AD Sion. And, if anything, it's the dominant build, not AD. It's be way worse to screw with it than any off-build.

[IronyOwl]

What. Blitz trolling at its finest.

Also, as long as I'm at it: This isn't especially funny, but it's the (not really mandatory) prequel to this, which is. Or at least, I thought it was hilarious.

[Neonivek]

I've played the original DOTA I am used to my favorite heros being nerfed and buffed into entirely different heros.

[baruk]

AP Sion plays completely differently than AD Sion. And, if anything, it's the dominant build, not AD. It's be way worse to screw with it than any off-build.

The stats confirm this - 48% of Sions get a Deathcap, whereas only 20% go for phantom dancer:
http://www.lolking.net/champions/sion

 I've tried AP Sion in Dominion (the recommended build, in fact), but it hasn't really grown on me yet - the 4 second delay before popping your shield makes it feel a little awkward and clunky to use as part of your burst damage. Just compare that to AP Rengar, who (with 5 ferocity) can simply double-tap his W for twice the area burst damage (or thereabouts). For this reason I don't think AP Sion will be missed should Riot rework it out of existence - it's just another build left behind by power creep.

[Graven]

The group stage of the World Championship started and the first game just ended - Azubu Frost vs Invictus Gaming. A boatload of aggression from both teams, group roaming at level 10 - excellent stuff; but is it just me, or is both teams' play really sloppy at times? People getting caught, people doing dumb things in teamfights, the baron throws...

Was a very fun game to watch but god damn.

edit : Might as well slap on a link, huh
http://tournaments.leagueoflegends.com/s2-world-championship

[Volatar]

The group stage of the World Championship started and the first game just ended - Azubu Frost vs Invictus Gaming. A boatload of aggression from both teams, group roaming at level 10 - excellent stuff; but is it just me, or is both teams' play really sloppy at times? People getting caught, people doing dumb things in teamfights, the baron throws...

Was a very fun game to watch but god damn.

edit : Might as well slap on a link, huh
http://tournaments.leagueoflegends.com/s2-world-championship

Are you kidding? Did you SEE IG in those teamfights? They executed teamfighting PERFECTLY picking off the damage dealers in the right order time and time again. Their play was amazing.

[Graven]

Dude they JUST let Bigfatlp WALK OUT from a gank after BFLP got a kill on Alistar. This is ridiculous. IG have fallen to the bottom of my "could possibly win" list.

edit : Whoooosh goes CLG.Na - no worries here.

[baruk]

 Clg.na surrendered too early, in my opinion. Even if they don't think they can win, they ought to play it out for the sake of the fans.

but is it just me, or is both teams' play really sloppy at times? People getting caught, people doing dumb things in teamfights, the baron throws...

It's just you.

 Singed OP. To quote SK's Kevin "Holy shit!".

[Graven]

Still feeling pretty confident M5's taking this. The asian teams do seem to be crushing the group stage for now, though. Good for them, it's best for the game if there's more competition. I still think some of their mechanical play is sloppy, though.

edit : Also wow, 190k people watching? This seems like a lot of people, good for Riot.

reedit : Woo, finally excitement in the CLG vs SK game, too bad it was in favour of CLG, I really hate those guys. Was a really cool gank into teamfight bot, though.

Wow, hotshot getting caught? Say it isn't so.

reedit : Yes, I most certainly hate CLG. Hope they get beaten by everyone and their grandmothers.

[penguinofhonor]

Oh my god CLG. That was amazing.

[Graven]

Haha get stomped in 25 minutes CLG, hells yeah.


... hopefully the same doesn't happen to M5