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Footkerchief

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3645 on: January 05, 2012, 09:44:11 am »

3). Do mists happen underground in caves? That, would be really, really, terrifying. On the same note, bloody rivers (Nile)

The devlog indicates that (at least in vanilla) they only happen in evil regions, which doesn't include caves.

Really? Because I had to fight off a skeleton giant cave swallow and a mix of zombie and skeletrogglodytes in my current fort.

(I did assume Anatoli meant caverns.)  In that case I don't really know.
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« Reply #3646 on: January 05, 2012, 10:50:26 am »

So the mists can generate monsters, kind alike the night creatures? Very cool!
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« Reply #3647 on: January 05, 2012, 11:13:01 am »

Will there be special mists or rain in relatively "good" areas?

I'd imagine they'd have different effects or properties.
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« Reply #3648 on: January 05, 2012, 11:21:30 am »

Do dwarves try to avoid at least the worst of the stuff (like turning into a bloodless husk) or will he have to either manually block those areas out somehow or accept resulting losses?
Alright, I'm not privy to the particulars or anything, but I'm 99.9% positive that's a big NO.  Dwarves still have no fear of fire, so I would be shocked if they behaved in a related self-preservation-themed way with regards to this. 

Part of the fun of DF is dealing with your utterly idiotic dwarves and their apparent desire for self-destruction. 
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« Reply #3649 on: January 05, 2012, 11:31:35 am »

Heck maybe we will see the generators start having people get lost and find themselves turned into creatures.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3650 on: January 05, 2012, 12:06:53 pm »

(I did assume Anatoli meant caverns.)  In that case I don't really know.
I don't recall where it was said, but I'm pretty sure that caverns have good and evil as well that's independent of the surface alignment, becoming more evil the deeper you go.
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« Reply #3651 on: January 05, 2012, 01:05:48 pm »

When you get around to random metals will that include alloys you can make with those metals? Will those metals include descriptions verbose enough so we know how useful they are? And what are the odds we'll come across a random mineral named "goblinite"? :P
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3652 on: January 05, 2012, 01:38:13 pm »

Will those metals include descriptions verbose enough so we know how useful they are?

Transmitting that information to the player in some form is definitely a goal.
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« Reply #3653 on: January 05, 2012, 01:51:42 pm »

How does the evil rain interact with the Adventure Mode character?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3654 on: January 05, 2012, 01:54:50 pm »

You'll never die of thirst- blood rain everywhere!

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3655 on: January 05, 2012, 02:12:59 pm »

Will every Terrifying region have evil weather (assuming that Terrifying surroundings are what you meant by "hell-on-earth")?

In any case, I am very, very happy that Terrifying regions will actually be terrifying instead of just being an evil region with [SAVAGE] wildlife, although that does render a significant portion of my mod redundant to to point of overkill :/

Also, monk12's post above brought to mind something odd...
'Evil' can be pretty subjective sometimes.
Bloody rain would certainly be creepy as all hell to, say, a human or an elf, but to a species that feeds on blood it'd be pretty much the greatest thing ever (assume that the blood-feeding species in question is itself benign, and that they have the resources to disinfect the 'rain' of airborne contaminants). In fact, if it weren't for the quasi-cannibalism factor involved in eating human/dwarf blood (I say "quasi" because it doesn't appear to be coming from an actual, living human/dwarf), I'm sure there are many real-life cultures who would go "Yay, free black pudding!" and set funnels outside before every rainstorm, or at least after they'd gotten used to it enough to not freak out every time the sky started bleeding.
Of course, this isn't really a problem; part of the fun of DF is taking fantasy clichés, applying them to an internally-consistent simulation, and seeing how such things would actually play out.

EDIT: Actually, I guess finding potable water would be tough in such a region.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3656 on: January 05, 2012, 02:17:25 pm »

I suppose it would depend on whether all the rain was magically transformed to blood, or just a few of the showers. I imagine the whole place would stink to high heaven after a storm, too.

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #3657 on: January 05, 2012, 02:37:09 pm »

I suppose it would depend on whether all the rain was magically transformed to blood, or just a few of the showers. I imagine the whole place would stink to high heaven after a storm, too.
I would imagine the miasma will be terrible.
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« Reply #3658 on: January 05, 2012, 03:07:03 pm »

I suppose it would depend on whether all the rain was magically transformed to blood, or just a few of the showers. I imagine the whole place would stink to high heaven after a storm, too.
I would imagine the miasma will be terrible.
Miasma doesn't happen outdoors.
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« Reply #3659 on: January 05, 2012, 03:13:54 pm »

To be honest, I can't really think of anything more awful than ratman dandruff snow.  I might be persuaded to go outside in a bloodstorm, but dandruffblizzard?

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I don't care how many jewel-encrusted socks are lying on the patio.  Not going out there.
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