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[Dsarker]

If the blood thing isn't changing, and a well gets contaminated by vampire blood (say by the sheriff after he executes him, or by a survivor of a fight when the vampire did not), will that make vampires, or does the blood need to be pure?

[MrWiggles]

If the blood thing isn't changing, and a well gets contaminated by vampire blood (say by the sheriff after he executes him, or by a survivor of a fight when the vampire did not), will that make vampires, or does the blood need to be pure?

From the Dev Log, with the Arena test, he had to make his adventure lick the blood, a fair amount before he became infected. So, it seems like Vampirism, has to be digested for it to spread like that. And contamination sprawl can get on food.

[Dakk]

Yea, only ingestion causes contamination, altough like ^he said, it raises some interesting questions about blood splattered food or blood mixed in water/booze. That actualy sounds pretty awesome, that we can possibly cause a vampire epidemic by poisoning a town's water supply with vampire blood, or by creating a device involing grates, several axes and a vampire to cause all of your dwarves to become crazy dwarf vampires.

[Cruxador]

On that note,
What happens if all of your dwarves are vampires? Do they feed off each other?

[Gaspa Craftdreams]

I would guess that vampire afflictions will be procedurally generated, so in some worlds vampires will be your "undying-lich-with-flesh" variety, while in others vampires will have more standard weaknesses like requiring fresh blood to survive, but then again I can't search the forum for beans so I wouldn't know what Toady's final say is.

My prediction is that if your dwarves are all vampires, expect them to do things like feeding on innocent wildlife or willingly wade through an army of goblins just to taste freshly spilled blood.

Damn, someone should make some fanart of a vampire dwarf visiting unholy terror on a group of unsuspecting goblins.

[Areyar]

Dwarves starve to death all the time, why would vampires without food not waste away
until they prove undeath is only a temporary state?

[Fieari]

Actually, he's said that while he intends vampires to be procedurally generated in the future, for now there's just one kind.

Which makes me think of a question:

Toady, while you aren't making varieties of vampires and other undead monsters NOW, have you included the framework for expanding them in the future?  Can we mod in additional types of vampirism ourselves?  If so, are they "whole package" or did you make the framework for random parts in the curse/secrets system?

[Footkerchief]

Actually, he's said that while he intends vampires to be procedurally generated in the future, for now there's just one kind.

Which makes me think of a question:

Toady, while you aren't making varieties of vampires and other undead monsters NOW, have you included the framework for expanding them in the future?  Can we mod in additional types of vampirism ourselves?  If so, are they "whole package" or did you make the framework for random parts in the curse/secrets system?

Since night creature cleanup has been checked off, maybe the new raws are even ready for a pre-release peek.

[Knight Otu]

Actually, he's said that while he intends vampires to be procedurally generated in the future, for now there's just one kind.

Huh? Last I checked, he did say that there were different vampire types, just that the differences are very big (for instance, there are no monstrous type vampires yet). Similar for the animated dead.

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How exactly does the syndrome and/or interactions involved in drinking vampire blood work? How much of that process is part of the interaction system itself?
And on a related note: How would an adventurer learn about the properties that a certain vampire type would have? Will there usually be enough information for an adventurer to make a decision dealing with whether he wants to drink the blood or not?

It's all the interaction system.  The blood is linked to the historical figure, and the historical figure has a syndrome that carries body transformation information.  There is no vampire creature definition, so there are no new materials, so it has to run a trace essentially when you eat any material attached to a specific being.  If it loses the connection as it sometimes does between historical figure and generic creature, then the blood would just be, say, "human blood" and have no transformation capability.

The notes up online had things about entity groups that would tell you about vampire capabilities and so on, but we didn't do that, so there isn't much of anything now.  Of course, there isn't much variety now either, so it doesn't matter much.

To what extent are we going to see randomly generated interactions/variations on interactions in this release? I know we've got, for example, some flexibility on vampires based on past FotF posts.

There are tweaks on various things like the Zombie Speed question and stuff like that, or whether or not a power is present, but there's nothing so sweeping that it would require some kind of exposition or different naming.

[Dsarker]

Do vampires, when disguised, still transform others? Say, would Vampire X, who claims to be C, and gets a cut, when D drinks X's blood, would it track it as if it belonged to X or C? Would you be able to tell a vampire if it bleeds by the name on the blood?

[Cruxador]

Do vampires, when disguised, still transform others? Say, would Vampire X, who claims to be C, and gets a cut, when D drinks X's blood, would it track it as if it belonged to X or C? Would you be able to tell a vampire if it bleeds by the name on the blood?

By my understanding: They aren't actually transforming, they're just assuming a role. The thing with teeth elongating while they feed is separate. Their physical properties remain unchanged, thus the blood still carries the appropriate properties to transform others.

[Dsarker]

Do vampires, when disguised, still transform others? Say, would Vampire X, who claims to be C, and gets a cut, when D drinks X's blood, would it track it as if it belonged to X or C? Would you be able to tell a vampire if it bleeds by the name on the blood?

By my understanding: They aren't actually transforming, they're just assuming a role. The thing with teeth elongating while they feed is separate. Their physical properties remain unchanged, thus the blood still carries the appropriate properties to transform others.

But what Toady says is that the blood doesn't have any properties that makes it transform except that it is linked to the historical figure who happens to be a vampire. While they are disguised, if they bleed blood of the disguise, would it stop them from transforming others?

[Kogut]

Do vampires, when disguised, still transform others? Say, would Vampire X, who claims to be C, and gets a cut, when D drinks X's blood, would it track it as if it belonged to X or C? Would you be able to tell a vampire if it bleeds by the name on the blood?

By my understanding: They aren't actually transforming, they're just assuming a role. The thing with teeth elongating while they feed is separate. Their physical properties remain unchanged, thus the blood still carries the appropriate properties to transform others.

But what Toady says is that the blood doesn't have any properties that makes it transform except that it is linked to the historical figure who happens to be a vampire. While they are disguised, if they bleed blood of the disguise, would it stop them from transforming others?

No. There are disguised ( http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disguise ), not transformed into different creature.

[Dsarker]

Do vampires, when disguised, still transform others? Say, would Vampire X, who claims to be C, and gets a cut, when D drinks X's blood, would it track it as if it belonged to X or C? Would you be able to tell a vampire if it bleeds by the name on the blood?

By my understanding: They aren't actually transforming, they're just assuming a role. The thing with teeth elongating while they feed is separate. Their physical properties remain unchanged, thus the blood still carries the appropriate properties to transform others.

But what Toady says is that the blood doesn't have any properties that makes it transform except that it is linked to the historical figure who happens to be a vampire. While they are disguised, if they bleed blood of the disguise, would it stop them from transforming others?

No. There are disguised ( http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disguise ), not transformed into different creature.

Yes. But Toady has ALREADY SAID that if the vampire is not an important historical figure, and gets culled, the blood of it does not work. So will it, as it stands, display the blood as if it were from a vampire (and allow you to identify it) or as the disguisee and allow you to become a vampire or as the disguisee and not turn you into a vampire?

[Kogut]

Why mountain caves are placed only on the borders of mountains?