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Author Topic: Future of the Fortress  (Read 1205636 times)

Urist Da Vinci

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2565 on: October 25, 2011, 10:29:54 pm »

Currently, we get "Urist has drowned!", "Urist has bled to death!", etc. It is often possible to fast-zoom to the location using the stocks menu or a combat report, or an auto-pause setting. The cause of death, such as an attacker, is often just standing there next to the body.

How will a blood-drinking vampire murder be announced? Will it be obvious who the attacker was?

I'd hope that I can't simply identify the vampire because he's the only dwarf standing in the room next to the guy who just died of blood loss.

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2566 on: October 26, 2011, 12:26:11 am »

Toady considering the world's cultures. Where do you think Mummies will go with that in consideration?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2567 on: October 26, 2011, 12:52:58 am »

Reading the latest dev logs I now can envision it perfectly, the vampire detection system! All new migrants are now placed into the military and made to fight a captured goblin. If they are a vampire then they should have no problem at all killing a goblin, allowing us to immediately execute them where they stand. And if the goblin kills them then of well, they were just a migrant anyways. Mandatory entrance exams for everyone!

And I'm all with thvaz, if I have devlogs that allow me to read about the cool new features that are coming, I'm willing to wait easily twice as long for the next update then without them.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2568 on: October 26, 2011, 12:56:57 am »

Reading the latest dev logs I now can envision it perfectly, the vampire detection system! All new migrants are now placed into the military and made to fight a captured goblin. If they are a vampire then they should have no problem at all killing a goblin, allowing us to immediately execute them where they stand. And if the goblin kills them then of well, they were just a migrant anyways. Mandatory entrance exams for everyone!

And I'm all with thvaz, if I have devlogs that allow me to read about the cool new features that are coming, I'm willing to wait easily twice as long for the next update then without them.

I can't wait until my Masons create the Vampire trip wire and the Vampire detection alarms.

Combined with the home security datapad my fortress will be impenetrable.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2569 on: October 26, 2011, 01:11:27 am »

Reading the latest dev logs I now can envision it perfectly, the vampire detection system! All new migrants are now placed into the military and made to fight a captured goblin. If they are a vampire then they should have no problem at all killing a goblin, allowing us to immediately execute them where they stand. And if the goblin kills them then of well, they were just a migrant anyways. Mandatory entrance exams for everyone!

Kill them? I will put them in separate section of fortress with milkers etc and use as elite soldiers (see my signature, it will be really useful). And I will keep goblin from killing anybody! BTW, I hope that they kill list may be revealed.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2570 on: October 26, 2011, 01:35:53 am »

I love the bonus features we get from features creeps. Historical figures as migrants is something I always dreamt of.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2571 on: October 26, 2011, 01:51:35 am »

One time you'll get that adventurer you made. Only he's made friends with everyone in the migrant group, and they're all useless. Once one of them dies...he goes into berserk and your fortress crumbles to its end.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2572 on: October 26, 2011, 01:57:46 am »

I love the bonus features we get from features creeps. Historical figures as migrants is something I always dreamt of.

We welcome bug 972: Historic figure dies of old age when migrating ( http://216.97.239.212/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=972 ). Now it will be even more depressing, in fort older than 10 years large part of historic figures will do the same.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2573 on: October 26, 2011, 02:01:42 am »

I love the bonus features we get from features creeps. Historical figures as migrants is something I always dreamt of.

We welcome bug 972: Historic figure dies of old age when migrating ( http://216.97.239.212/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=972 ). Now it will be even more depressing, in fort older than 10 years large part of historic figures will do the same.

Which will probably be fixed in this update.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2574 on: October 26, 2011, 02:09:39 am »

I love the bonus features we get from features creeps. Historical figures as migrants is something I always dreamt of.

We welcome bug 972: Historic figure dies of old age when migrating ( http://216.97.239.212/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=972 ). Now it will be even more depressing, in fort older than 10 years large part of historic figures will do the same.

Which will probably be fixed in this update.
Well, it requires worldgen going during fort mode and it is yet another feature creep and will result in many, many, many crash type bugs.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2575 on: October 26, 2011, 02:26:13 am »

It sounds kind of exploity thou ... five year world, gen dozens of demigod adventurers as backbone of your military...

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2576 on: October 26, 2011, 02:31:25 am »

OMG, this game is fully moddable, I can add adamantium from nothing reaction, disable invasions, modify dwarves to have [NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP] and size 1999191919928. And then wall inside. Godlike adventure character is nothing.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2577 on: October 26, 2011, 03:11:41 am »

I love the bonus features we get from features creeps. Historical figures as migrants is something I always dreamt of.

We welcome bug 972: Historic figure dies of old age when migrating ( http://216.97.239.212/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=972 ). Now it will be even more depressing, in fort older than 10 years large part of historic figures will do the same.

Which will probably be fixed in this update.
Well, it requires worldgen going during fort mode and it is yet another feature creep and will result in many, many, many crash type bugs.

You are some kind of bug doomsayer now, aren't you?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2578 on: October 26, 2011, 03:35:14 am »

What happens if a vampire was unmasked? Is it possible to keep him after a non-lethal punishment? And does he try to behave after he was punished? Like, only drinking blood from animals or volunteers from that point and stuff?

Damn it would be so fun having a somewhat tamed vampire in your army C:
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2579 on: October 26, 2011, 03:37:34 am »

Currently, we get "Urist has drowned!", "Urist has bled to death!", etc. It is often possible to fast-zoom to the location using the stocks menu or a combat report, or an auto-pause setting. The cause of death, such as an attacker, is often just standing there next to the body.

How will a blood-drinking vampire murder be announced? Will it be obvious who the attacker was?

I'd hope that I can't simply identify the vampire because he's the only dwarf standing in the room next to the guy who just died of blood loss.
I'd guess they'll be using some variant of the sneaking system, like undetected thieves and ambushes, so they'll probably be invisible to the player.
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