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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2355 on: October 03, 2011, 03:38:16 pm »

What makes you think I know anything? All I'm doing is extrapolating from the stuff Toady told us - that the necromancers write about stuff they know, and that a book about a converted spouse gets 30 pages while one about a direct apprentice who also happened to be a queen gets almost ten times that much.

When you use words like "is quite certainly" instead of "is probably" and "is very likely", you're generally stating something as fact. Any reasonable person would deduce from a statement stated as fact that the stater knows, or at least believes to know, the truth behind the fact they state. Just so you know. For an example of a fact: the aforementioned rule most certainly applies to extrapolation in most circumstances.

I've got another question.

To what extent are we going to see randomly generated interactions/variations on interactions in this release? I know we've got, for example, some flexibility on vampires based on past FotF posts.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2356 on: October 03, 2011, 03:42:37 pm »

Regarding books:

Are all books currently unique, or can there be copies? For example, if one entity writes a biography of the dwarven king, then several others do the same, would those that had access to the original biography copy it, or write their own. If the former, how would this be represented in-game?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2357 on: October 03, 2011, 04:14:05 pm »

is there a short term plan to integrate books in fortress mode?

i'm picturing dwarves highly proficient in certain subjects writing books other dwarves could read on their break times to level up both student skill and the respective skill. also, martial arts manuals.
EDIT:and any short term plans for libraries outside of necromancer towers?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2358 on: October 03, 2011, 04:22:27 pm »

is there a short term plan to integrate books in fortress mode?

i'm picturing dwarves highly proficient in certain subjects writing books other dwarves could read on their break times to level up both student skill and the respective skill. also, martial arts manuals.
EDIT:and any short term plans for libraries outside of necromancer towers?

Hmmmm... I'm just imagining a book for the student skill....
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2359 on: October 03, 2011, 04:23:11 pm »

perfectly reasonable, there are such books IRL

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« Reply #2360 on: October 03, 2011, 04:25:29 pm »

While I have never taken the class myself there is apperantly a class at my college that focuses on teaching learning methods and how to get the most out of class time.  It has a textbook.

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2361 on: October 03, 2011, 09:51:19 pm »

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Oooh, intriguing. Allow me to begin the wild mass guessing- I bet it's some kind of special siege zombie, or perhaps zombie mounts.

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« Reply #2362 on: October 03, 2011, 09:55:16 pm »

I vote for spending a little more time on books, because they're awesome.

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« Reply #2363 on: October 03, 2011, 09:57:40 pm »

I vote for spending a little more time on books, because they're awesome.

Ohh yeah NOW I know you... Too bad there is little I can remedy about it :'(

I am very vague sometimes.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2364 on: October 04, 2011, 01:57:01 am »

I vote for spending a little more time on books, because they're awesome.

Ohh yeah NOW I know you... Too bad there is little I can remedy about it :'(

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2365 on: October 04, 2011, 02:57:18 am »

I vote for spending a little more time on books, because they're awesome.

They are awesome, but I vote for them to be worked later, in a proper way. The lack of releases is already hurting Toady's income.
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« Reply #2366 on: October 04, 2011, 03:26:40 am »

I can't help but feel that to some extent, the tying of the creation of monsters, apprentices, and books to previously extant historical figures is decreasing the verisimilitude of world gen. Because of how few world gen figures there are (and can be due to computational costs), it is inevitable that every possible dwarf fortress world gen event will happen to a world gen figure; it will be bizarre reading histories where every world gen figure is a leader or noble or one kind or another who had wrote a book, discovered immortality, and then became a monster.
I don't feel that the computational load of worldgen stuff should be considered too heavily. Even if worldgen's computation cost were massively huge, it's not that big of a deal because we can just let the world generate on one core while doing other things on a different core.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2367 on: October 04, 2011, 04:24:50 am »

is there a short term plan to integrate books in fortress mode?

i'm picturing dwarves highly proficient in certain subjects writing books other dwarves could read on their break times to level up both student skill and the respective skill. also, martial arts manuals.
EDIT:and any short term plans for libraries outside of necromancer towers?

im interested in those questions too.
on another note: martial arts manuals are useless irl, so i doubt it would make sense implementing those(well, they could be there, but without the effect of actually learning any combat skills)
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2368 on: October 04, 2011, 04:29:28 am »

by martial arts i meant books on swordplay, archery, etc. those are martial arts too

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2369 on: October 04, 2011, 04:35:29 am »

what about marital arts?
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