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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2011, 05:31:39 am »

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2011, 05:42:47 am »

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2011, 06:52:25 am »

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2011, 07:05:21 am »

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2011, 07:34:26 am »

If we ever get to secrets being completely randomly generated...
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2011, 07:41:53 am »

Anybody else think of the movie "Evil dead" when Toady mentioned separated (possessed) limbs?
That movie is pretty much what I imagine with evil biome. 

Only now when writing this did the Adams family's "Thing" come to mind.

Actually, my first thought was; 'So that's why the grass is wriggling'. :p
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2011, 08:35:26 am »

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2011, 09:32:14 am »

Thank you for your answers, again, Toady. 

In the last response, you only answered the first half of my question, however, so I'd like to ask the second part again:

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With night creatures, you mentioned that you might need to do some questing to find a weakness to a night creature.  Will it actually be impossible to kill night creatures without exploiting their weaknesses?  (As in, is there no way to simply chop them into a fine enough paste faster than they regenerate, or just drag them away from whatever magical power source they have to kill them "the hard way", so that we must rely upon finding a weakness, no matter the difference in strength or skill our characters have with our enemies?)

Likewise, if some sort of religious practice to divine weaknesses or to exorcise undead must happen to kill certain creatures, will we, as players, (at least some point in the future, perhaps having to wait on general magic system) have the ability to become one of those religious figures, capable of divining or performing exorcisms of ghosts or reversals of curses on our own, and can our fortresses train exorcists or the like to combat un-slabbable ghosts? Or do we have no power to fight these things on our own?

It might be impossible to permanently kill a creature without figuring something out.  There isn't going to be anything so unstoppable that it ruins your game.  My comment about non-100% effectiveness is more in reference to people that died particular deaths, for example.  A slab might not be enough to stop a hammered execution victim from coming back for revenge every so often, but I don't have any specifics.

Will we, either as adventurers or as fortress managers have the ability to divine these weaknesses if it is impossible to kill night creatures without exploiting those weaknesses? 

In the case of an adventurer, will we be capable of receiving training as a religious figure or whathaveyou that lets you acquire this sort of weakness-revealing information on your own, and become a "Adventurer Role: Slayer of Nightcreatures" in the sense of being a traveling exorcist?  Or must you go out and find those religious figures and ask them on the weakness for every night creature you run across?

In the case of a fortress, we can't go out and search for religious figures to perform a divination for us.  Will we have fortress temples where we can interact with the priest, and get them to tell us how to kill a nightcreature that can only be killed by exploiting some weakness?  How will we even manage to control whether dwarves can exploit a weakness, for that matter?  Will there be a "coat your swords in syrup" function going in any time soon? Or will Fortress Mode nightcreature weaknesses just be pushed off?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2011, 09:42:20 am »

Will we be able to mod secrets to be known/used by appointed noble?

I, for example, would like to make "The Castle" series mod where ruler grants imortality to best-of-best (swordmaster, armorer ..., but also cook, doctor ...).

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2011, 11:39:35 am »

Will we be able to mod secrets to be known/used by appointed noble?

I, for example, would like to make "The Castle" series mod where ruler grants imortality to best-of-best (swordmaster, armorer ..., but also cook, doctor ...).

Or ninjas with the secret of flying after they reach legendary swordsmaster (or grower, for historicallity).
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2011, 11:41:01 am »

Sorry, if it is too early to ask such questions but will Legends mode at some point include additional economics information about towns such as main exports and imports or average production of various goods?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2011, 11:55:14 am »

Sorry, if it is too early to ask such questions but will Legends mode at some point include additional economics information about towns such as main exports and imports or average production of various goods?
Considering that that's how the economy will now work, I'll say the question isn't "will it?" but rather "when?" and "will toady remember to do it in this release?"
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #57 on: May 12, 2011, 12:13:56 pm »

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #58 on: May 12, 2011, 12:36:40 pm »

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Now I'm really hoping that necromancers will eventually be able to raise the dead with dance moves.

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2011, 01:09:34 pm »

What about:
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