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[Mel_Vixen]

And i was just pondering aloud. 

[Dsarker]

Well, we could use the framework for vampires to do the tracking of the lineage of the special animals. Say, a dog kills five goblins (however it does so), and has puppies. Those puppies would be listed as the historical figure dog's children, and so on.

[Cruxador]

Well, we could use the framework for vampires to do the tracking of the lineage of the special animals. Say, a dog kills five goblins (however it does so), and has puppies. Those puppies would be listed as the historical figure dog's children, and so on.

We already have lineage tracking for historical figures. We have for ages. The vampire framework is irrelevant to that.

[Dsarker]

Yes, yes, but this is specifically related to the discussion in which the idea of tracking the lineage was ridiculed.

[Footkerchief]

Actually for breeds to work in you just need the actually just the traits of a creature (and maybe some recessive genes as backup) so you can get actual breeds. I agree that tracking the linage would be cool but for the sake of keeping the memory-usage down just saving the data of the actual current existing individuals is sufficient. Also i asume toady did some (gene-)pooling to cut down the memory even more althought this would also cut the genetic variance of the population. But these are only guesses and i also would like to hear the answer.

What would interest me is if and how the pet keeping species decide which traits they favour and want in a animal? I could see Humans for example keep atleast 3 kinds of horses 1 each for light and heavy cavalery and one as work-horse.

No, there's no selective breeding of animals right now.

[i2amroy]

I'm just happy that every animal will no longer be a patchwork of colors, with "his fur on his front right paw is light blue, on his left paw+back paws it is tawny, on his ears is grey, on his upper body is brown, on his have is white, etc., etc."

[Neonivek]

I'm just happy that every animal will no longer be a patchwork of colors, with "his fur on his front right paw is light blue, on his left paw+back paws it is tawny, on his ears is grey, on his upper body is brown, on his have is white, etc., etc."

Paibald or however you spell it, is probably the closest I can think of to "Patchwork of colors"

[Footkerchief]

Really enjoying these daily devlogs and the screenshots.

[Neonivek]

Really enjoying these daily devlogs and the screenshots.

Yeah.

I was sort of hoping for something else in effect but it didn't happen and thus my hope for another resulting effect is dashed.

Ohh well.

[flabort]

Hmm... With the Forgotten Beasts and Plains Titans, it seems to randomly pick a random creature, and add some random "flaws/upgrades" to it, possibly from other creatures.

I'm wondering, with the current 'breeds' mechanic being worked on right now, if traits NOT in the creature's RAWs will eventually be able to show up in a specific breed of the creature, or at least extend/retract certain numbers beyond their normal limits. Say, you isolated a bunch of cats, and slaughtered certain ones, until one showed up with "bone protrusions on it's head", just little nubs of bone, and you bred them for that, until you have a breed of cats with small little blunt horns. Trade some of these out of the fortress, so that they end up in another town, and soon a human town has another population of horned tabbies. And then another, as they trade among themselves, and another. And then they bring some horned tabbies BACK.
Or Dogs with scorpion tails, or lions with blue (or pink) fur?

Basically, Will the Uninvited Guest's code governing variety somehow appear in the Breeds mechanic (even if scaled down)?

[Draco18s]

Toady, you ever going to take a look at odd river intersections, eg. the triangle as seen in world 1, near lake?

They look terribly funny and not very realistic when encountered when playing, and a 4-intersections have disastrous results.

Edit: greenified.

[Footkerchief]

Hmm... With the Forgotten Beasts and Plains Titans, it seems to randomly pick a random creature, and add some random "flaws/upgrades" to it, possibly from other creatures.

They aren't from other creatures.  There's a small hardcoded grab bag of traits that are only used for randomly generated creatures (forgotten beasts, titans and demons).

Hmm... With the Forgotten Beasts and Plains Titans, it seems to randomly pick a random creature, and add some random "flaws/upgrades" to it, possibly from other creatures.

I'm wondering, with the current 'breeds' mechanic being worked on right now, if traits NOT in the creature's RAWs will eventually be able to show up in a specific breed of the creature, or at least extend/retract certain numbers beyond their normal limits. Say, you isolated a bunch of cats, and slaughtered certain ones, until one showed up with "bone protrusions on it's head", just little nubs of bone, and you bred them for that, until you have a breed of cats with small little blunt horns. Trade some of these out of the fortress, so that they end up in another town, and soon a human town has another population of horned tabbies. And then another, as they trade among themselves, and another. And then they bring some horned tabbies BACK.
Or Dogs with scorpion tails, or lions with blue (or pink) fur?

Basically, Will the Uninvited Guest's code governing variety somehow appear in the Breeds mechanic (even if scaled down)?

No, there is no spontaneous creation of new traits.  The only variation is what's explicitly specified in the raws.  The "breeds mechanic" is just the extension of the 31.01 genetics to animal populations.

[Cruxador]

I'm just happy that every animal will no longer be a patchwork of colors, with "his fur on his front right paw is light blue, on his left paw+back paws it is tawny, on his ears is grey, on his upper body is brown, on his have is white, etc., etc."

We don't know for certain that this is the case - Toady said his cats are grey with brown ears, but that could be happenstance as easily as it could be a code change. More easily even.

Toady, you ever going to take a look at odd river intersections, eg. the triangle as seen in world 1, near lake?

They look terribly funny and not very realistic when encountered when playing, and a 4-intersections have disastrous results.

There are a lot of weird things about rivers that could stand to be improved.

[Lac]

Toady, you ever going to take a look at odd river intersections, eg. the triangle as seen in world 1, near lake?

The correct place to record your sighting is of course the triangular lake sighting internet site (http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discoveries/triangles/main.html).  Sorry; the internet never ceases to amaze me.  (Apologies to those for whom the magic has worn off).

[kwieland]

Toady, you ever going to take a look at odd river intersections, eg. the triangle as seen in world 1, near lake?

They look terribly funny and not very realistic when encountered when playing, and a 4-intersections have disastrous results.

I don't think the triangles are that unrealistic.  Look at the interception of these two rivers near my home town here.  When the rivers flood, then the top profile is nearly exactly a triangle. 

I didn't get the point of your second link.  I see one river that forms a waterfall into a lake below.  Am I missing something?