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[tfaal]

Which, if I may just interject what everyone is thinking, is badass beyond all comparison.

[Jimlad11]

Necromancer: What is this? A foolish hero trying to rid the world of evil? You want to wrest this book from my hands and destroy it forever! You will never succeed! MWAHAAHAAHAA!

Urist McAdventurer: Hell no. I want that book so I can do all this undead-raising business myself. 

Necromancer: Ah, crap...

[mendonca]

Urist McAdventurer: Will you come and journey with me? Share in my glory!

Townsfolk: Nah thanks, I'm fine tending my cabbages.

Urist McAdventurer: Ok. We do this the hard way. *cleave*

Urist McAdventurer: *mysterious mumbling*

Townsfolk's upper and lower halves of body stand to attention beside Adventurer

Urist McAdventurer: Onwards we go then!

[Neonivek]

Well, you do have to find the secrets first, which probably means taking down an enemy necromancer or raiding a dungeon.

Yeah but go a few months back before necromancers and go

"Hey, what if we had magic that was clearly overpowering allowing us to bring Megabeasts on our side for no cost or penelty. However it was hard to find ability"

I would suspect almost everyone would be against it.

That is what I find funny.

It is part of the "Everything is forgivable if it is awsome"

[jellsprout]

Well, you do have to find the secrets first, which probably means taking down an enemy necromancer or raiding a dungeon.

Yeah but go a few months back before necromancers and go

"Hey, what if we had magic that was clearly overpowering allowing us to bring Megabeasts on our side for no cost or penelty. However it was hard to find ability"

I would suspect almost everyone would be against it.

That is what I find funny.

It is part of the "Everything is forgivable if it is awsome"

This is Dwarf Fortress. If it can lead to enough Fun, I don't think there is anything the community is against. The core community has also learned to trust Toady in his decisions.

[thvaz]

Well, you do have to find the secrets first, which probably means taking down an enemy necromancer or raiding a dungeon.

Yeah but go a few months back before necromancers and go

"Hey, what if we had magic that was clearly overpowering allowing us to bring Megabeasts on our side for no cost or penelty. However it was hard to find ability"

I would suspect almost everyone would be against it.

That is what I find funny.

It is part of the "Everything is forgivable if it is awsome"

Is there a leaked version? Or can you see the future? It must be one of these, for it looks like you know too much already.

[Neonivek]

Is there a leaked version? Or can you see the future? It must be one of these, for it looks like you know too much already.

Yes, I can see the future of the fortress. How did you know?

[zwei]

There are limitations.  The animated bits require either a head or a grasp part or they either can't be reanimated or collapse immediately.  That's one of the new undead rules, they need one of those to stay 'alive'.

A zombie arm is ok.  It has a grasp part.  A zombie Leg is not.

It still allows huge momentum if kill results in +2 to 4 numeric advantage. If you meet with opposition with equal number of combatants, you will at worst have no losses and at best double your army.

This is, of course, assuming average undead foe has 50/50 chance of scoring kill vs. average soldier.

I have flashbacks of D2 necromancer building army of skeletons from weak foes, then using them to grind down strong foes and then use those to kick some serious demon lord ass.

[Untelligent]

An arm or even half of a person is going to be significantly weaker than a living soldier due to the huge size disadvantage. I suppose you could use blunt weapons to ensure your foes die intact, though.

[3]

An arm or even half of a person is going to be significantly weaker than a living soldier due to the huge size disadvantage.

That in mind, I expect there'll be the regular size-based weirdness when it comes to animated parts; a lot of them'll probably be too small to pierce the skin/break bones, and thusly they'll just cause a lot of attack spam and no real effect.

[Niccolo]

An arm or even half of a person is going to be significantly weaker than a living soldier due to the huge size disadvantage.

That in mind, I expect there'll be the regular size-based weirdness when it comes to animated parts; a lot of them'll probably be too small to pierce the skin/break bones, and thusly they'll just cause a lot of attack spam and no real effect.

I'm now imagining adventuring with a veritable cloud of hands. At a word from me, they all leap for the nearest not-mine throat and start squeezing.

Even better, the ability to 'assemble' golems would be sweet. Take a hydra's body, switch out each head for a firebreathing dragon's... maybe add some wings and then ride this bastard into battle.

[penguify]

Urist McAdventurer: Will you come and journey with me? Share in my glory!

Townsfolk: Nah thanks, I'm fine tending my cabbages.

Urist McAdventurer: Ok. We do this the hard way. *cleave*

Urist McAdventurer: *mysterious mumbling*

Townsfolk's upper and lower halves of body stand to attention beside Adventurer

Urist McAdventurer: Onwards we go then!

You couldn't reanimate the lower body. It doesn't have a GRASP or MOUTH part. You could, however, stab him in the brain and then reanimate the entire corpse.

Can zombies learn?

[monk12]

An arm or even half of a person is going to be significantly weaker than a living soldier due to the huge size disadvantage.

That in mind, I expect there'll be the regular size-based weirdness when it comes to animated parts; a lot of them'll probably be too small to pierce the skin/break bones, and thusly they'll just cause a lot of attack spam and no real effect.

I'm now imagining adventuring with a veritable cloud of hands. At a word from me, they all leap for the nearest not-mine throat and start squeezing.

Even better, the ability to 'assemble' golems would be sweet. Take a hydra's body, switch out each head for a firebreathing dragon's... maybe add some wings and then ride this bastard into battle.

Are constructed "Frankenstein Monster" type things going to be in the upcoming version?
Will the player be able to take advantage of that mechanic to complement whatever necromancy they pick up?
Now that specific abilities are attached to specific body parts, will we be able to perform the aforementioned Dragon Head/Hydra Body and expect firebreath as a result?

I know that they were mentioned in a DF talk, but I don't see confirmation of their inclusion in the devlog (apart from a brief "after vampires" from Threetoe,) and that Talk was certainly before the decision to make interactions usable by the player.

Mostly, I'm picturing sewing daggers to the fingers on those severed hands to give them serious damage potential, or sewing a human hand to that same human's lower body in order to animate it separately. Or sewing that human hand onto other normally unraisable things.

[Untelligent]

Zombie peregrine falcon women, or regular falcon women that just happened to be nesting up there?

[monk12]

Do they fly? And dive? Because that would be awesome.

More excitingly, does this imply that reading the slab is (theoretically) possible in Dwarf Mode, or is he simply clearing out the area to make the adventure mode smash and grab easier? ONLY TIME WILL TELL.