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antymattar

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large stationary beer barrels.
« on: May 09, 2011, 01:39:25 pm »

I think there should be large beer barrels that can be constructed. They would be a type of building that can be bult. They would look something like this:


They would be sisable(like walls but with a minimum size(like 3x3)) and would also be a bit like walls. They would also be rotatable. Every giant barrel would be able to hold only one type of drink. I would also love to see fermentation. Each giant barrel would have a drink that has fermented to a certain stage. thoughts? Oh, right! Each barrel has a tap so yes, dwarves can drink from them. They should also be able to hold water.

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Re: large stationary beer barrels.
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2011, 01:42:16 pm »

i support booze behaving like other liquids: magma and water. i'd love to make waterfalls of booze and drowning rooms of booze for pleasant death. also other uses such as beer lakes and booze moats would be cool.
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Re: large stationary beer barrels.
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2011, 03:12:12 pm »

i support booze behaving like other liquids: magma and water. i'd love to make waterfalls of booze and drowning rooms of booze for pleasant death. also other uses such as beer lakes and booze moats would be cool.
Wouldn't work, every dwarf would commit suicide diving in and drowning. You'd run out of laborers long before you could finish construction of a moat.
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Re: large stationary beer barrels.
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2011, 03:25:07 pm »

make invaders walk through a 3 full booze bath. then, drop 1 magma in and watch parts fly
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Re: large stationary beer barrels.
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2011, 04:36:28 pm »

make invaders walk through a 3 full booze bath. then, drop 1 magma in and watch parts fly

Why would adding magma to booze cause an explosion? Most alcoholic beverages are only 5% alcohol by volume, and that's nowhere near enough to be flammable, and before you start mentioning "flambé", you should know that's only done with hard liquor (at least 40% by volume) and doesn't work at all with wine or beer. Don't believe me? Take a beer and try to set it on fire.

For the record, booze has never been explosive in Dwarf Fortress - the worst it will ever do is boil into a cloud of harmless vapor, since alcohol boils long before it burns (182°F versus 832°F) and vapors cannot burn in DF. The idea of "booze bombs" originated entirely from the aforementioned red clouds of boiling booze, and they don't actually do any damage.
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Re: large stationary beer barrels.
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2011, 08:07:34 pm »

I WANT DIS NAOW!!!1!!!!!!!111!!1!!!!!!!!!
My beard thirsts the thirst of a thousands deserts with no booze in them.
Also booze lakes......  :) :) :) :D :D :D :P

I support this.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2011, 08:35:39 pm »

Interesting idea.

You might call them "hogsheads," "kegs," or "casks" to differentiate them from barrels.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2011, 09:49:59 pm »

A similar, but more restrained, idea has been suggested in the past.  A "pony key" or "taproom" building that requires one or more barrels which holds a large quantity of booze, allowing dwarves easier access to it than wandering all the way to a stockpile.  Also might give reason to have goblets and tankards and such, to fill them up from it and drink from. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2011, 04:38:10 am »

Although something tells me that they might just stick their heads under the tap. Seems fairly likely for a bunch of alcohol dependant pyschopaths.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2011, 08:59:52 am »

Most alcoholic beverages are only 5% alcohol by volume, and that's nowhere near enough to be flammable

And that's just in modern (industrial) times. In medieval times the common homespun beers were more in the 1-2% region, similar to modern Russian kvass. Stronger and finer beers were for festivities. Even commercial wine could be just 5%, and that's before it was diluted with water.

Though these were beverages that people drank in order to keep hydrated, not to get pissed. So dwarven drinks may (or may not) be different.  :-\
« Last Edit: May 10, 2011, 09:14:36 am by Dwarfoloid »
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Re: large stationary beer barrels.
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2011, 09:06:46 am »

Most alcoholic beverages are only 5% alcohol by volume, and that's nowhere near enough to be flammable

And that's just in modern (industrial) times. In medieval times the common homespun beers were more in the 1-2% region, similar to modern Russian kvass. Stronger and finer beers were for festivities. Even commercial wine could be just 5%, and that's before it was diluted with water.
We are talking about dwarves you know... They just drink pure alcohol and give it different names like wine and beer just for the lulz
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2011, 09:13:22 am »

We are talking about dwarves you know... They just drink pure alcohol and give it different names like wine and beer just for the lulz

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Re: large stationary beer barrels.
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2011, 01:12:42 pm »

For the record, I would reclassify this thread.  What we need, is custom fluid types, and then the large barrel will create itself.  Once booze, blood, vomit, etc. becomes an actual 7/7 fluid, then it will be very easy to create a 5 level high booze barrel (or 50 level high mug) or even the fabled Boozfall!

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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2011, 01:40:58 pm »

Back on Topic: I support the initial idea of the topics starter. It would give the underdeveloped architecture labor another use and would be rather easy to impelment.


Although the idea of fluids isn't bad you will get several problems caused by this. 1. A 7/7 of booze or blood? That's hell of a lot. 2. How should the code handle it, if they mix? ohne must be lighter or they must mix. What you get then? So i see no hope for this idea.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2011, 01:47:59 pm »

It would be great if you could set up a zone where dwarves would drink the "liquid" booze.
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