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[Nirur Torir]

I missed that, as I would have checked it during the turn.

With a 50% loyalty on the planet, he has a 'growth' of -0.04, which rounds to -0.1 population.

[Neyvn]

Neyvn:
You now have 4 PTC (Population Transport Capacity), which is enough to move 4 million people/turn to your colony. Your FF Bernards have been given to the civilian sector, and no longer cost upkeep.
That terraforming comes out to +10 enviro.
Newly recolonized planets will start at 50% loyalty, I think. Being sent off to repopulate a ruined planet isn't particularly pleasant.
Environmental upkeep is 1 per person per 20 points of imperfect environment. 11 here.

Ok so that means that 15 has a pop of 4 not 2.
Then...
.22 - (-.055) * 1.21 (Tech) = 0.3

[Nirur Torir]

You're not calculating in loyalty, I don't even know what the .22 is for, you're adding growth due to living on an airless rock, and even insects don't generally procreate while in cryostasis.

growth_amount = (growth_rate(from tech and species bonus) * loyalty - (enviro_away_from_ideal * .0005) ) * pop
X = (0.055 * 1.21 * 0.5 - 0.055) * 2
-0.021 * 2 = -0.04
Or, if I was factoring in the new population of 6 (You started the turn with 2 population on that planet), -0.13, which would round to -0.2.

[Neyvn]

^^ This part I don't understand properly understand...

[IronyOwl]

The formula is as follows:

((A*B) - C) * D

Where:

A is total growth rate, meaning (0.05 * racial bonus * tech bonus). Since you've got racial growth 1 (1.1) and tech growth 2 (1.21) you get (0.05 * 1.1 * 1.21) = 0.06655

B is loyalty. Since you've got 50% (0.5) loyalty, this is just 0.5. Note that it doesn't matter what order you multiply in, so 0.5 * 0.05 * 1.1 * 1.21 works just as well as 0.06655 * 0.5 for the next part.

C is environmental difference, meaning 0.0005 times the difference between the planet's current and ideal environments. Since your ideal environment is 160 and the Planet 15's current environment is 50, we get (160 - 50 = 110), or (|50 - 160| = 110). Note that |absolute value signs| - it is absolutely impossible for this number to be negative. In any case, this gives us a total environment penalty of (0.0005 * 110 = 0.55)

Therefore, ((A*B) - C) is equal to (0.06655 * 0.5 - 0.55), or (0.033275 - 0.55), giving us a grand total growth rate of -0.021725

We then multiply that by D, which is your current population, in this case 2. So (2 * -0.021725) = -0.04345, which rounds up (down?) to -0.1


To recap, the total formula should look like this:

Growth = ((0.05 * 1.1 [rac] * 1.21 [tec]) [growth rate] * 0.5 [loyalty] - (110 [enviro_away_from_ideal] * .0005) ) * 2 [pop] = -0.1



Also, Terraforming costs 500 per point of size for every 1 point change. Since 15 is only size 1, every 500 points of production alters environment by 1 point.

Loyalty doesn't cost anything unless you want to buy off the colonists to increase their loyalty faster. If you give them 100% of the taxes they'd produce at 100% loyalty, their loyalty goes up by another 10% this turn. Since you have 2 people and 1.1 tax tech, that'd be 2.2, rounding up to 3 bc.

Environmental upkeep is equal to (environmental difference / 20) * population in millions. In this case, that'd make it (110 / 20) * 2, or 11 bc.

[Nirur Torir]

Special turn: Chance of good events triples!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

But it was wasted.

Evilcherry:
Base trade income for planet 4 next turn is 2967.1c and 25,117p.
Effective trade income for planet 2 (*0.80) is 2373c and 20,093p.

Production IV researched. Production modifier from science set to 1.46.
Missiles I researched.

Vanigo:
Trade route established with Evilcherry, between planets 2 and 4. One Count is currently in orbit of planet 4.
Remaining fleet moves to (2,10). Fleet consists of 2 FF Counts and 3 FF Inquest Bs, an unidentified classification.

Base trade income for planet 2 next turn is 2511.7c and 29,671p.
Effective trade income for planet 2 (*1.21) is 3039c and 35,901p.

Ground Attack I researched. Ground attack modifier from science set to 1.1.
Ground Attack II researched. Ground attack modifier from science set to 1.21.
Ground Defense I researched. Ground defense modifier from science set to 1.1.
Ground Defense II researched. Ground defense modifier from science set to 1.21.
Trade I researched. Trade income modifier from science set to 1.1.
Trade II researched. Trade income modifier from science set to 1.21.
Standard Marine Transports researched: 1x troops, 1 loyalty, 4 turn lander (Combining Standard and Expanded transports would be possible, but require more research. If you wanted a general upgrade to all marine transports, like +10% troop capacity, I don't want such a tech for balance reasons, but am willing to let you change this out for an alternative marine transport upgrade.)
+10% credit income for helpfulness: +805c.

Neyvn:
8 CO Competent Drop Pod Transports built.
The 5.8 million people on planet 15 reactivate 4 manufacturies, bringing the total up to 5.

IronyOwl:
Terraforming III researched. Terraforming modifier from science set to 1.33.
Plague! A terrifying outbreak on planet 1 kills 461 million people before the vaccine is discovered and the plague genocided.
New population for planet 1: 7752.6.
+3% credit income for helpfulness: +309c.

Spoiler: Twentins (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

Ideal environment: 297


Production
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/* colony number (Size, Quality, Environment, Loyalty, Manufactories, Population):
   Production(p) = manned manufactories x 10 x quality% x loyalty% + Trade received from last turn. See my turn post - It should be the same as their t, slightly further down, from last turn.
   Taxation(c) = mpopulation x loyalty%
        Trade: t = 20% of current production as credits. This will change as more trade routes are added.
   Remember taxation is halved under blockade
                                 */
20 (9,97,297,100,93.5,70):
   p = 70 * 10 * 0.97(quality) * 1(loyalty) * 1.21 (tech)= 821p
   c = 93 = 93c
        t = 0
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Consumption
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/* colony number:
   Ships: p+c = number of ships or part thereof the Ship designation
   Manufactories: p+c = #of manufactories (1 per 100p/c)
   Terraforming: p+c = % improvement (1% per 500p/c * planet size)
   Technology: p+c
   Loyalty: c = % loyalty (1% per mpopulation /10 c)
   Environment upkeep: c = (|Ideal_Environment - Current_Environment|) / 20 * population(in millions)
                              */
20:
   Ships = 821p  = 821/1000 CO Zero
   Manufactories = 0p
   Terraforming = 0p
   Technology = 0
   Loyalty = 0
   Environment Upkeep: 0
   Total = 821p + 0c
   
Treasury
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Last turn balance: 0c
Colonial Income: 93c
Consumption: 0c
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: 0c
Interest: -0c
Balance next turn: 93c
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Growth
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20 (9,97,297,100,93.5,70):
   Growth = 93.5 * 0.05 = 97.6
   Manufactory = 0
   Terraforming = 0
   Loyalty = 0
   (9,97,297,100,97.6,70)

Twentins
Realizing that the empire that attacked them has overwhelming firepower, and unable to gain anything usable as a weapon from outsiders, the Twentins build suicidal ships in a nearly-hopeless race against the clock. Everything they know depends on it, and the people are united for a common task. (No, no you may not build CO Zeros. The loyalty penalty if there's any other possible non-surrender option for defense isn't worth it.)

Spoiler: Known Techs (click to show/hide)

Military

**Corvette Construction
**Frigate Construction

Strategic Anti-Planetary Missiles I (Evilcherry)

**Basic Troop Transports - 1x capacity, 0.8 loyalty, 5 turn lander.
Standard Marine Transports - 1x capacity, 1 loyalty, 4 turn lander. (Vanigo)
Expanded Marine Transports - 1.5 capacity, 0.5 loyalty, 6 turn lander. (evilcherry, Vanigo)
Drop Pod Transports - 0.75 capacity, 0.7 loyalty, does not land. (Neyvn)

Ground Attack I (Vanigo)
Ground Attack II (Vanigo)

Ground Defense I (Vanigo)
Ground Defense II (Vanigo)

Colonization I (IronyOwl, Neyvn)

Cloaking I (evilcherry, Neyvn)

**Engine II
Engines III (Vanigo, Evilcherry)

Miniturization I (evilcherry, Vanigo)

Missiles I (Evilcherry)

Sensors I (evilcherry)

Strike Craft I (Neyvn)

Strike Craft Engines I (Neyvn)


Economic

Industrial Expansion I (IronyOwl)
Industrial Expansion II (IronyOwl)

Pop Growth I (Vanigo, IronyOwl, Neyvn)
Pop Growth II (Vanigo, IronyOwl, Neyvn)
Pop Growth III (IronyOwl)
Pop Growth IV (IronyOwl)

**Production I
**Production II
Production III (Evilcherry, IronyOwl, Vanigo)
Production IV (IronyOwl, Vanigo, Evilcherry)
Production V (Vanigo)

**Research I
Research II (Vanigo, Neyvn, IronyOwl)
Research III (IronyOwl, Neyvn, Vanigo)

Shipbuilding I (Vanigo)

Taxation I (IronyOwl, Neyvn)
Taxation II (IronyOwl)
Taxation III (IronyOwl)

Terraforming I (IronyOwl)
Terraforming II (IronyOwl)
Terraforming III (IronyOwl)

Trade I (Vanigo)
Trade II (Vanigo)

**Trade Routes II

** Indicates technology known to all players.

===Alternative Sorting===
Evilcherry: Frigates, Expanded Marine Transports, Cloaking I, Engines III, Sensors I, Miniaturization I, Missiles I, Strategic Anti-Planetary Missiles I, Research I, Production IV
Neyvn: Frigates, Colonization I, Strike Craft I, Strike Craft Engines I, Cloaking I, Growth II, Production II, Research III, Taxation I
Vanigo: Frigates, Expanded Marine Transports, Standard Marine Transports, Ground Attack II, Ground Defense II, Engines III, Miniaturization I, Research III, Production V, Pop Growth II, Shipbuilding I
IronyOwl: Frigates, Colonization I, Industrial Expansion II, Production IV, Research III, Pop Growth IV, Taxation III, Terraforming III

Spoiler: Standard Ships (click to show/hide)

MM Retribution - 2000p - 3 engines / 1 HP / Stealth I / Strategic Anti-Planetary Missile - Deals 25 points of environmental damage (12.5 against a size 5, 2.5 against a size 10. Rounds down.) Kills 0.5% of population for each point of environmental damage. Destroys 0.5 manufactories per million population killed. Reduces loyalty by 5% per 1% of population killed. Required tech: Strategic Anti-Planetary Missiles I.

CO Transport - 5,000p - 2 Engines / 3 HP / 30,000 Troop Capacity at 80% loyalty, standard landing / This is a basic warp-capable ship, filled with marines at the cost of troop comfort and defenses. Required tech: None

CO Zero - 1000p - Suicide / 1 engines / 6 HP / Building such a ship is usually the last act of a desparate empire. Even planets with minimal technolgical and manufacturing capabilities are able to strap engines and engineer cabins to large chunks of rock or metal, but it's never popular. As they lie dormant until they recieve a signal that enemies are approaching, attackers only get one attack round to destroy them. Using them against enemy systems is ill advised.

FF Count - 15,000p - 10 Beam Atk / 10 Beam Def / 10 Missile Defense / 10 Kinetic Defense / 2 Engines / 15 HP / An old favorite due to their high reliability, and a remnant from a forgotten age. Many still exist, but the technology to build more has been lost to the sector. Required Tech: Frigate Construction, Beam II, Beam Defense II, Missile Defense II, Kinetic Defense II, Miniaturization II.

FF Bernard - 20,000p - 2 Engines / 5 HP / 1,000,000 population capacity / This is the most basic colonization ship available. Following the rediscovery of cryogenic technology, it is once more possible for spacefaring empires to move vast sums of civilians around the sector. Required Tech: Frigate Construction, Colonization I.

FF Reynold Rogers - 20,000p - 2 Engine / 5 HP / 1,300,000 population capacity / This ship was designed in tandem with cryogenic sleep pods, and named after the well-paid professor who invented them. Required Tech: Frigate Construction, Colonization III.

DD Trader - 30,000p - 2 Engines / 5HP / Trader - This is technically a destroyer sized vessel, able to be built even by colonial industry due to modular construction techniques not suitable for military use. The technology to build them has only barely been preserved. Required Tech: None.

Map

[Vanigo]

Hmm. Yeah, I was thinking I wanted something to mitigate the penalties imposed by expanded transports. Switch it to expanded transports II or something, I guess? Or would expanded transports II be even bigger but still with penalties to morale and takeoff time, possibly even bigger?

[Nirur Torir]

Currently, there are two main lines of transports.
Standard, which focuses mostly on loyalty and decreasing the time spent on the ground.
Expanded, which carries more marines, but stays grounded longer and has decreased loyalty. Each level will further It carries more firepower per transport, but causes more collateral damage and takes longer to reload between missions.
There are also special transports, like drop pods. I have at least one other useful one planned.

Either focus on one line to get the most bonuses from it, or mix them up ... On further thought, I think I'll let you mix them without the earlier techs.

Don't expect fun names for all the hybrid transport modules, though.

Vanigo's new tech, instead of Standard Marine Transports:
Expanded I/Standard I Marine Transport - 1.25x troops, .8 loyalty, 5 turn lander (Efficiency over standard: 1.125)

[Vanigo]

Wait, shouldn't trade income be 10 times higher than what you've got listed there?

[Nirur Torir]

I haven't the slightest idea of what I did to get those numbers. Fixed.

[Vanigo]

You forgot to update my planet's environment on the map, apparently.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

+2 Research
+2 Production
+2 Loyalty Recovery
+2 Population Growth

-2 Terraforming
-2 Large Structures

Ideal environment: 190


Production
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/* colony number (Size, Quality, Environment, Loyalty, Manufactories, Population):
   Production(p) = manned manufactories x 10 x quality% x loyalty% + Trade received from last turn. See my turn post - It should be the same as their t, slightly further down, from last turn.
   Taxation(c) = mpopulation x loyalty%
        Trade: t = 20% of current production as credits. This will change as more trade routes are added.
   Remember taxation is halved under blockade
                                 */
2 (10,100,190,100,8236.7,8236):
   p = 8236 * 10 * 1(quality) * 1(loyalty) * 1.2(racial) *1.61 (tech) + 35901p (trade)= 195,020p
   c = 8236.7 * 1(loyalty) = 8236c
        t = 3039c
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Consumption
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/* colony number:
   Ships: p+c = number of ships or part thereof the Ship designation
   Manufactories: p+c = #of manufactories (1 per 100p/c)
   Terraforming: p+c = % improvement (1% per 500p/c * planet size)
   Technology: p+c
   Loyalty: c = % loyalty (1% per mpopulation /10 c)
   Environment upkeep: c = (|Ideal_Environment - Current_Environment|) / 20 * population(in millions)
                              */
2:
   Ships = 0p * 1.1 = 0p
   Manufactories = 59800p = 59800 = 598 manufactories (135,220 left)
   Terraforming = 0p * 0.8(racial penalty) =  0 = 0% improvement next turn
   Technology = 135,220p * 1.2 *1.32 = 214,188p
   Loyalty = 0
   Environment Upkeep: c = (|190-190|) / 20 * 6744.5 = 0c // Round to hurt yourself.
   Total = 125,951p+5000c
   
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Research
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60,000p: Ground HP (if possible, otherwise defense)
60,000p: Production
94,118p: Colonization
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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 20979c
Colonial Income: 8236c
Consumption: 0c
Trade income: 3039c
Fleet Upkeep: -2700c /* you must not hide this value
Interest: -0c (negative c / 20)
Balance next turn: 29554c
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Growth
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2 (10,100,190,100,8236.7,8236):
   Growth = 8236.7 * (0.06 * 1.21 * 1 - (|190 - 190|) / 2000) = 597.9
   Manufactory = 598
   Terraforming = 0
   Loyalty = 0
   (10,100,190,100,8834.6,8834)

[Vanigo]

Uh, guys?

[IronyOwl]

Working on it.

Um, how does transporting civilians work again? Do they vanish from their home world at the start of a turn and appear at their destination at the end of said turn, or something else?

[Nirur Torir]

Working on it.

Um, how does transporting civilians work again? Do they vanish from their home world at the start of a turn and appear at their destination at the end of said turn, or something else?

Yes. Lazy workers refuse to do anything while in cryo-sleep.

[Vanigo]

So...