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[Neyvn]

1) Just give me a destination. Your current ships move two squares per turn, as they have two engine points. Diagonals count as much as horizontals.

2) growth_amount = (growth_rate(from tech and species bonus) * loyalty - (enviro_away_from_ideal * .0005) ) * pop

6079.9 * 0.055 - ((165-160) * .0005) = 334.3

This may be why my Growth has been wrong...
Can you show me what it looks like for my turn here???

[Nirur Torir]

I did. As Criptfeind said, your terraforming won't matter for this turn.

[Vanigo]

Hey, Criptfiend, isn't spending money on loyalty limited to doubling your normal yearly recovery?

[Criptfeind]

Apparently not.

[Nirur Torir]

Sure it is!

[Criptfeind]

Huh. What about last turn?

[Nirur Torir]

New unofficial notpoll: In case a player's mistake is minor and nobody notices within 24 hours of me posting the turn, should it be allowed to go through? (See also: Partially Sanctioned Cheating As Additional Game Mechanic. Financial penalties would apply to anybody caught, with bonuses for those who point out the 'mistakes.')

[Criptfeind]

I say yes. Sure. Why not.

Vangio is a hawk anyway.

[Vanigo]

Hey, ggamer, don't forget about this.

[Neyvn]

Oh shoot been busy with work I keep forgetting to get my turn actually up... Give me a tick...

[Neyvn]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

Population growth: +1
Land Defense: +1
Research: +2
Small crafts attack: +2
Land Attack: +2

Defensive structures: -2
Large structures: -2

160 environment

Movement
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(20,8)
Fleet 1
-FF Count 1 (12/12)
-FF Count 2 (12/12)
-FF Count 3 (12/12)
-CO Transports 1
Move to 5,20

Fleet 2
-CO Transports 2
Move to 8,19 Colonize.

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Production
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3:
(Size-10, Quality-100, Environment-167, Loyalty-100, Manufactories-6080, Population-6079.9):
Production(p) = 6080 * 10 * 1(quality) * 1(loyalty) * 1(racial special)*1.21 (Tech Bonus) = 73568p
Taxation(c) = 6079 * 1(loyalty) = 6079c
Trade: t = 0
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Consumption
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3:
Ships = 0
Manufactories = 33400p = 334 Manufactories...
Terraforming = 25000p = 5% improvement,
Technology = 15168p + 7000c * 1.2 = 26601p
Loyalty = 0c
Environment Upkeep: c = (|Ideal_Environment [160] - Current_Environment [165]|) / 20 * population(in millions) [6079.9] = -1520
Total = 73568-8520c

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Research
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26601
6601p into Population Improvements.
20000p Research Improvements - (Lv 1 Better Buildings)

Income Improvements
Unlocks :: NOTHING

Research Improvements
Unlocks :: NOTHING

Population Improvements
Unlocks :: NOTHING

Production Improvements
Unlocks :: Production Improvements I,Production Improvements II

Deception Research
Unlocks :: Cloaking I researched

Strikecraft Research
Unlocks :: Strike Craft Chassis Strike Craft Engines I

Frigate Research
Unlocks :: Frigate Chassis

Transport Class Vessel Enhancements
Unlocks :: Drop Pod Transports

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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 3817c
Colonial Income: 6079c
Consumption: -8520
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: -1200c
Interest: 0
Balance next turn: +176c
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Growth
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3:
(Size::10, Quality::100, Environment::167, Loyalty::100, Manufactories::6080, Population::6079.9)
Growth = 6079.9 * 0.055 - ((165-160) * .0005) = 334.3
Manufactory = 334
Terraforming = 165 - 5 = 160
Loyalty = 0
(10,100,160,100,6414,6414.2)

[ggamer]

Spoiler:  SOD Turn 5 (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

Spaceship HP +1
Spaceship Defense +1
Loyalty recovery +1
Trade and Selling production +1
Research +2

Population growth -2

80 environment

Movement
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(16,19)
   Fleet 1
      FF Count 8/16
      FF Count 8/16
      FF Count 8/16
      CO Transport 4/4
      CO Transport 4/4
      CO Transport 4/4
      Hold
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Production
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/* 5 (10, 1.00, 80, 1,00, 5,700, 5,834,000,000):
   Production(p) = 5,700 x 10 x 1.00 x 1.00 + 0 x 1.1  = 62,700p
   Taxation(c) = 5,834 x 1.00 = 5,834c
        Trade: 0
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Consumption
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5:
   Ships: 5,000p+0c = 5,000/5,000 CO Transport
   Manufactories: 10,000p+0c = 100 (1 per 100p/c)
   Terraforming: 0p+0c = 0% (1% per 5,000p/c)
   Technology: 38,500p+0c Colonization V1
   Loyalty: 0c = 0% (1% per mpopulation /10 c)
   Environment upkeep: 0c = (|0|) / 20 * 50,000
                           
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Research
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More colonization research. Some Professor is getting pissed at the sudden workload.
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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 19,303c
Colonial Income: 5,834c
Consumption: -0c
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: -1800c
Interest: -0c (negative c / 20)
Balance next turn: 24,337c
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Growth
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31 (10, 1.00, 80, 1.00, 50,350, 5,834,000,000):
   Growth = 5,834,000,000*0.04 = 215,360,000 + 5,834,000,000 = 6,049,360,000 = 6,049,000,000
   Manufactory = 100
   Terraforming = 0
   Loyalty = 0

What's the repair rate on ships again?

[Nirur Torir]

Your ships are fully repaired.

I think the repair rate shall be:
0% for underdeveloped worlds.
25%/turn for worlds with 1000 manufactories and 1B population
50%/turn for worlds with at least 5000 manufactories and 5B population

For simplicity, technology, quality, and racial traits will have no effect on it.
Modules that allow ships to repair even while in transit are possible, with technology.

Any problems with this system?

[Nirur Torir]

Evilcherry:
Sensors I researched.

Vanigo:
Production III researched. Production modifier from science set to 1.33.
Pop Growth I researched. Growth modifier from science set to 1.1.
Miniaturization I researched.
FF Count III, DD Trader now at (1,12)
+25% money bonus: +1411 money.

Neyvn:
Research I researched. Research modifier from science set to 1.1.
Fleet 1 moved to (5,20).
Flag planted on planet #15. Planet requires population from colony ships.

Criptfeind:
Population Growth II researched. Growth modifier from science set to 1.21. (Should come out to 0.0726)
Terraforming I researched. Terraforming modifier from science set to 1.1.
Loyalty of planet 90 is only at 90.
+400 credits. (-50 penalty for failing to correct your turn.)

Ggamer:
Frigate tech given for free.
Research I will be assimilated after next turn.
Census error: Population is at 6,067,300,000
Colonization I researched.
Colonization II researched.
Colonization III researched.

AchievementGet: Scientific Fad. Researched three levels of one tech in a single turn.

New ship designs:
FF Bernard - 20,000p - 2 Engines / 5 HP / 1,000,000 population capacity / This is the most basic colonization ship available. Following the rediscovery of cryogenic technology, it is once more possible for spacefaring empires to move vast sums of civilians around the sector. Required Tech: Frigate Construction, Colonization I.

FF Reynold Rogers - 20,000p - 2 Engines / 5 HP / 1,300,000 population capacity / This ship was designed in tandem with cryogenic sleep pods, and named after the well-paid professor who invented them. Required Tech: Frigate Construction, Colonization III.

Spoiler: Known Techs (click to show/hide)

**Corvette Construction
**Frigate Construction

**Engine II
Engines III (Vanigo)

Cloaking I (evilcherry, Neyvn)

Miniturization I (evilcherry, Vanigo)

**Basic Troop Transports - Standard capacity, 0.8 loyalty, 5 turn lander.
Expanded Marine Transports - 1.5 capacity, 0.7 loyalty, 6 turn lander. (evilcherry)
Drop Pod Transports - 0.75 capacity, 0.7 loyalty, does not land. (Neyvn)

Sensors I (evilcherry)

Strike Craft I (Neyvn)

Strike Craft Engines I (Neyvn)

Ground Attack I (Ggamer)

**Trade Routes II

Colonization I (Criptfeind, ggamer)
Colonization II (ggamer)
Colonization III (ggamer)

**Production I
Production II (Neyvn, Vanigo)
Production III (Vanigo)

Research I (Criptfeind, Evilcherry, Vanigo, Neyvn)

Pop Growth I (Criptfeind, Vanigo)
Pop Growth II (Criptfeind)

Terraforming I (Criptfeind)

Strategic Anti-Planetary Missiles I (Evilcherry)

** Indicates technology known to all players.

===Alternative Sorting===
Evilcherry: Expanded Marine Transports, Frigates, Cloaking I, Sensors I, Miniaturization I, Strategic Anti-Planetary Missiles I, Research I, Production I
Neyvn: Frigates, Strike Craft I, Strike Craft Engines I, Cloaking I, Production II, Research I
Criptfeind: Colonization I, Frigates, Pop Growth II, Terraforming I, Research I
Vanigo: Frigates, Engines III, Miniaturization I, Research I, Production III, Pop Growth I
Ggamer: Colonization III, Ground Attack I, Production I

Spoiler: Standard Ships (click to show/hide)

MM Retribution - 2000p - 3 engines / 1 HP / Stealth I / Strategic Anti-Planetary Missile - Deals 25 points of environmental damage (12.5 against a size 5, 2.5 against a size 10. Rounds down.) Kills 0.5% of population for each point of environmental damage. Destroys 0.5 manufactories per million population killed. Reduces loyalty by 5% per 1% of population killed. Required tech: Strategic Anti-Planetary Missiles I.

CO Transport - 5,000p - 2 Engines / 3 HP / 30,000 Troop Capacity at 80% loyalty, standard landing / This is a basic warp-capable ship, filled with marines at the cost of troop comfort and defenses. Required tech: None

FF Count - 15,000p - 10 Beam Atk / 10 Beam Def / 10 Missile Defense / 10 Kinetic Defense / 2 Engines / 15 HP / An old favorite due to their high reliability, and a remnant from a forgotten age. Many still exist, but the technology to build more has been lost to the sector. Required Tech: Frigate Construction, Beam II, Beam Defense II, Missile Defense II, Kinetic Defense II, Miniaturization II.

FF Bernard - 20,000p - 2 Engines / 5 HP / 1,000,000 population capacity / This is the most basic colonization ship available. Following the rediscovery of cryogenic technology, it is once more possible for spacefaring empires to move vast sums of civilians around the sector. Required Tech: Frigate Construction, Colonization I.

FF Reynold Rogers - 20,000p - 2 Engine / 5 HP / 1,300,000 population capacity / This ship was designed in tandem with cryogenic sleep pods, and named after the well-paid professor who invented them. Required Tech: Frigate Construction, Colonization III.

DD Trader - 30,000p - 2 Engines / 5HP / Trader - This is technically a destroyer sized vessel, able to be built even by colonial industry due to modular construction techniques not suitable for military use. The technology to build them has only barely been preserved. Required Tech: None.

Map

[Criptfeind]

Two things:

1: What about my attack?
2: I thought Mr. New rule says I get away with it since it is minor and took four days to find?