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[Criptfeind]

So, did you ever decide what to use?

[Nirur Torir]

As there have been no comments on it, we're using this unless my math is messed up.

x = growth(.066) * loyalty(.36) - (enviro_away_from_ideal * .0005)
growth = x(-.03174) * pop

[Vanigo]

Man, -30 loyalty really stings. Probably cost me 30,000p, all told.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

+2 Research
+2 Production
+2 Loyalty Recovery
+2 Population Growth

-2 Terraforming
-2 Large Structures

Ideal environment: 190


Production
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/* colony number (Size, Quality, Environment, Loyalty, Manufactories, Population):
   Production(p) = manned manufactories x 10 x quality% x loyalty% + Trade received from last turn. See my turn post - It should be the same as their t, slightly further down, from last turn.
   Taxation(c) = mpopulation x loyalty%
        Trade: t = 20% of current production as credits. This will change as more trade routes are added.
   Remember taxation is halved under blockade
                                 */
2 (10,100,195,70,5874.2,5874):
   p = 5874 * 10 * 1(quality) * .7(loyalty) * 1.2(racial) *1.1 (tech)= 54275p
   c = 5874.2 * .7(loyalty) = 4111c
        t = 0
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Consumption
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/* colony number:
   Ships: p+c = number of ships or part thereof the Ship designation
   Manufactories: p+c = #of manufactories (1 per 100p/c)
   Terraforming: p+c = % improvement (1% per 500p/c * planet size)
   Technology: p+c
   Loyalty: c = % loyalty (1% per mpopulation /10 c)
   Environment upkeep: c = (|Ideal_Environment - Current_Environment|) / 20 * population(in millions)
                              */
1:
   Ships = 0p
   Manufactories = 23200p = 23200 = 232 manufactories
   Terraforming = 6250p * 0.8(racial penalty) =  5000 = 1% improvement next turn
   Technology = 24825p * 1.2 *1.1 = 32520
   Loyalty = 5875c = 5875/5874.2*10*1.2 = 12% loyalty
   Environment Upkeep: c = (|195-190|) / 20 * 5874.2 = 1469c = 1469c /* Round to hurt yourself.
   Total = 54275p + 7344c
   
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Research
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The M'lan, appalled by the loss of the rare elements in the asteroid, set about ensuring no such disaster could be repeated. They set about developing new and better forms of asteroid mining, so that in the future they would have the ability to redirect valuable asteroids into stable orbits. This would, as an added benefit, improve the overall efficiency of their manufacturing. They also looked into the miniaturization of their spaceship components, as their powerful engines were unfortunately large enough to significantly hamper the primary purpose of the ship they were mounted on.

10000p: Production II
10,000p: Miniaturization I
14825p: PMed
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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 10480c
Colonial Income: 4111c
Consumption: -7344c
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: -1800c /* you must not hide this value
Interest: -0c (negative c / 20)
Balance next turn: 5447c
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Growth
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2 (10,100,195,70,5874.2,5874):
   Growth = 5874.2 * (0.06 * .7 - (|195 - 190|) / 2000) = 232.0
   Manufactory = 232
   Terraforming = 1
   Loyalty = 24
   (10,100,194,94,6006.2,6006)

[Criptfeind]

First multi-planet turn of the game. Not too hard.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

Population growth: +2
Production: +2
Spaceship Attack: +2
Loyalty recovery: +2
Large structures: +2
Investment: -2
Spaceship HP: -2
Spaceship Defense: -2

Tech:
1.1 pop growth
1.1 production growth
1.1 research

175 environment

Movement
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(9,1)
Fleet 1
-FF Count 1 (12/12)
-FF Count 2 (12/12)
-FF Count 3 (12/12)
-CO Transport 1 (2/2)
-CO Transport 2 (2/2)
-CO Transport 3 (2/2)
-Hold to restock

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Production
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1: (10,100,180,100,5898, 5898.8
p = 5898 * 10 * 1(quality) * 1(loyalty) * 1.1(tech) * 1.2(racial special) = 77853p
c = 5898 * 1(loyalty) * 1.0(tech) = 5898c
t = 0

24: (3,73,286,36,23, 52.3)
p = 23 * 10 * .73(quality) * .36(loyalty) * 1.1(tech) * 1.2(racial special) = 79p
c = 52 * .36(loyalty) * 1.0(tech) = 18c
t = 0

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Consumption
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1:
Ships = 0
Manufactories = 37500p= 367 manufactories
Terraforming = 25000p
Technology = 15353p
Loyalty = 0c
Environment Upkeep: c = 1475
Total = 77853p + 1475c

24:
Ships = 0
Manufactories = 79p + 2621= 27 manufactories
Terraforming = 4500c
Technology = 0p
Loyalty = 1300c
Environment Upkeep: c = 291
Total = 79p + 8712c

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Research
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15353 frigates
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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 5510c
Colonial Income: 5916c
Trade income: 0c
Sub total: 11426c
Consumption: -10187c
Fleet Upkeep: -1200c
Interest: 0
Spend: -10087
Balance next turn: 39
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Growth
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1: (10,100,180,100,5898, 5898.8
Growth = Current pop*(0.05*1.1(tech)*1.2(race)-(.0005*enviro))= 374.5
Manufactory = 375
Terraforming = 5
Loyalty = 0
(10,100,175,100,6273, 6273.3)

24: (3,73,286,36,23, 52.3)
Growth = Current pop*(0.05*1.1(tech)*1.2(race)*.36(loyalty)-(.0005*enviro))=-1.7
Manufactory = 27
Terraforming = 3
Loyalty = 35
24: (3,73,283,71,50, 50.6)

Edit: Okay, the post is glitching out and using smileys even when I tell it not too. So I left off the parentheses.

[Vanigo]

That's the old pop growth formula.

[Criptfeind]

Herpty derpty do no it's not.

Three times in a row you have corrected me on a mistake I did not make. Do I win a prize? (I would ask if you win a prize, but you do not deserve one.)

[Criptfeind]

I made a edit to my turn to take into account the fact that loyalty is so cheap to buy on my new planet.

[Vanigo]

Herpty derpty do no it's not.

Three times in a row you have corrected me on a mistake I did not make. Do I win a prize? (I would ask if you win a prize, but you do not deserve one.)

Uh, yes it is.
Current pop*(0.05*1.1(tech)*1.2(race)*.36(loyalty)*(.0005*enviro))
is most definitely not the same as
x = growth(.066) * loyalty(.36) - (enviro_away_from_ideal * .0005)
growth = x(-.03174) * pop
* != -

[Criptfeind]

Really, whats the dif? Please point it out.

Less you talking about the minus, but I don't think you are.

[Vanigo]

You've got a multiplication written in there where you should have a subtraction. (I guess it's neither the old or the new.) I haven't actually run the numbers to check if it's the right final answer and therefore just an error in the written-out equation, though.

[Criptfeind]

It's the right final number. Sos it's rights. Also, see it's not old.

Edit: Also, I fixed it before you said it. Childish hah away!

[Neyvn]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

Population growth: +1
Land Defense: +1
Research: +2
Small crafts attack: +2
Land Attack: +2

Defensive structures: -2
Large structures: -2

160 environment

Movement
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(20,8)
Fleet 1
-FF Count 1 (12/12)
-FF Count 2 (12/12)
-FF Count 3 (12/12)
-CO Transports 1
-CO Transports 2
Hold

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Production
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3:
(Size-10, Quality-100, Environment-167, Loyalty-100, Manufactories-5487, Population-5507.2):
Production(p) = 5487 * 10 * 1(quality) * 1(loyalty) * 1(racial special)*1.21 (Tech Bonus) = 66392p
Taxation(c) = 5507 * 1(loyalty) = 5507c
Trade: t = 0
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Consumption
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3:
Ships = 0
Manufactories = 26300p = 263 Manufactories...
Terraforming = 10000p = 2% improvement,
Technology = 30092p *1.2 = 36110p
Loyalty = 0c
Environment Upkeep: c = (|Ideal_Environment [160] - Current_Environment [167]|) / 20 * population(in millions) [5507.2] = -1928
Total = 57354p -1928c

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Research
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6100p into Population Improvements.
20000p into Landing/Re-Entry Tech. Frigate/Transport Class Enhancement.
Remaining 10000p Private Research

6154/XXXXXXX Population Improvements

20000/XXXXXX Production Improvements
Unlocks :: Production Improvements I,Production Improvements II

38000/XXXXXX Private Research

20000/XXXXXX Transport Class Vessel Enhancements
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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 1438c
Colonial Income: 5507c
Consumption: -1928
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: -1200c
Interest: 0
Balance next turn: +3817c
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Growth
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3:
(Size::10, Quality::100, Environment::167, Loyalty::100, Manufactories::5487, Population::5507.2)
Growth = Current pop*0.055=302.8 *.9 = 272.6
Manufactory = 263
Terraforming = 167 - 2 = 165
Loyalty = 0
(10,100,165,100,5750,5779.

Where is the map again???

[Criptfeind]

First page.

[Nirur Torir]

Where is the map again???

I'll link to it in future turns.

Evilcherry and ggamer need to post turns.

[evilcherry]

Spoiler: Kozel'sk (click to show/hide)

Kozel'sk
+2 Production
+2 Terraforming
+2 Population growth
+2 Large structures and Special Projects
+2 Loyalty Recovery

-2 Land Attack
-2 Taxation
-2 Trade and selling production

FF ComardeCount 1-3: Hold at 5,19

Kozel'sk Rodina (#4): (10 , 100 , 134 , 100, 5884 , 5884 )

Production = 77668p
Taxes = 4707c
Planetary Upkeep = 1/20 x 5884 = 295c
Net Income = 4412c
Population growth = Pop x 0.05 x (Buff multiplied - debuff added )= 5884 x 0.05 x (1.2-.0.01) = 350m

Manufactories = 34900p = 349 manufactories
Terraforming = 4167p x 1.2 = say 5000 -> 1 -> 135
Research = 38601p

->

Kozel'sk Rodina (#4): (10 , 100 , 135 , 100, 6234 , 6233 )

Research:
Secret Projects.

Credits:

Initial = 9509c
Income = 4412c
Fleet Upkeep = 900c
Balance = 13021c