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[Nirur Torir]

By the way, is research overflow wasted, or is it applied to the next tech in the line?

A research overflow will be applied to the next tech in that line, yes, although a minor* amount may be wasted.

*I cannot answer questions about "how much" or "why."

[ggamer]

Spoiler: SOD Turn 2 (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

Spaceship HP +1
Spaceship Defense +1
Loyalty recovery +1
Trade and Selling production +1
Research +2

Population growth -2

80 environment

Movement
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(15,19)
   Fleet 1
      FF Count 16/16
      FF Count 16/16
      FF Count 16/16
      Hold
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Production
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/* 5 (10, 1.00, 80, 1,00, 5,000, 5,200,000,000):
   Production(p) = 5,000 x 10 x 1.00 x 1.00 + 0 = 50,000p
   Taxation(c) = 5,200 x 1.00 = 5,200c
        Trade: 0
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Consumption
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5:
   Ships: 5,000p+0c = 5,000/5,000 CO Transport
   Manufactories: 35,000p+0c = 350 (1 per 100p/c)
   Terraforming: 0p+0c = 0% (1% per 5,000p/c)
   Technology: 10,000p+0c Infantry weapons V1 (more in research)
   Loyalty: 0c = 0% (1% per mpopulation /10 c)
   Environment upkeep: 0c = (|0|) / 20 * 50,000
                           
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Research
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The Institute of Weapons research was active, as plans for a new design of weapon was found in the archives. While the current Imperium shells used old lead shells, cheap to make as they were, they were inefective. The new shells use depleted uranium, allowing for more penetration and more damage done overall.

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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 6,600c
Colonial Income: 5,200c
Consumption: -0c
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: -900c
Interest: -0c (negative c / 20)
Balance next turn: 10,900c
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Growth
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31 (10, 1.00, 80, 1,00, 50,000, 5,000,000,000):
   Growth = 5,200,000,000*0.04 = 208,000,000 + 5,200,000,000 = 5,408,000,000
   Manufactory = 350
   Terraforming = 0
   Loyalty = 0

[Vanigo]

Uh, traders are 30,000p destroyers, not 5,000p corvettes.

[ggamer]

fix'd

[Criptfeind]

So, what you going to do about the marines/pop thing?

[IronyOwl]

Still interested in a sixth player?

[evilcherry]

Spoiler: Kozel'sk (click to show/hide)

Kozel'sk
+2 Production
+2 Terraforming
+2 Population growth
+2 Large structures and Special Projects
+2 Loyalty Recovery

-2 Land Attack
-2 Taxation
-2 Trade and selling production

FF ComardeCount 1-3: Hold at 5,19

Kozel'sk Rodina (#4): (10 , 100 , 128 , 100, 5270 , 5270 )

Production = 63240p
Taxes = 4216c
Planetary Upkeep = 7/20 x 5270 = 1845c
Net Income = 2371c
Population growth = 5270 x 1.2 x 0.05 x 0.93 = 294m

Manufactories = 29400p = 294 manufactories
Terraforming = 12500p x 1.2 = 15000 -> 3
Research = 21340p

->

Rodina (#4): (10 , 100 , 131 , 100, 5564 , 5564 )

Research:
10000p to a larger hull
11340p to [Pleae check it NT].

Credits:

Initial = 5600c
Income = 2371c
Fleet Upkeep = 900c
Balance = 7071c

[Nirur Torir]

So, what you going to do about the marines/pop thing?

Your voices have been heard: Marines remain free, and do not cost population.
Marine transports cannot be used to transport civilians, as that would add annoying micromanagement for little gain.

Still interested in a sixth player?

Sorry, but I would have to restart the game again, as I'd rather not have a person in the middle of this map.

[Criptfeind]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

Population growth: +2
Production: +2
Spaceship Attack: +2
Loyalty recovery: +2
Large structures: +2
Investment: -2
Spaceship HP: -2
Spaceship Defense: -2

175 environment

Movement
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(14,22)
Fleet 1
-FF Count 1 (12/12)
-FF Count 2 (12/12)
-FF Count 3 (12/12)
-CO Transport 1 (2/2)
-CO Transport 2 (2/2)
Hold

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Production
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1: (10,100,184,100,5270,5270000000):
p = 5270 * 10 * 1(quality) * 1(loyalty) * 1.2(racial special) = 63240p
c = 5270 * 1(loyalty) = 5270c
t = 0
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Consumption
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1:
Ships = 2000p = 5000/5000 CO Transport = 1x CO Transports
Manufactories = 28700p= 287 manufactories
Terraforming = 10000c
Technology = 22540p
Loyalty = 0c
Environment Upkeep: c = 2372
Total = 63240p + 2372 c

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Research
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10000 into pop growth
12540 into a ship I can put the colonization module on.
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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 1400c
Colonial Income: 5270c
Consumption: -2372c
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: -1200c
Interest: 0
Balance next turn: 3098
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Growth
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1: (10,100,184,100,5270,5270000000)
Growth = Current pop*0.06=300000000 *.91 = 287742000
Manufactory = 287
Terraforming = 2
Loyalty = 0
(10,100,182,100,5557,5557742000)

[Vanigo]

Evilcherry, Criptfiend, you both have your planetary upkeep wrong. And, Criptfiend, 2000p will not get your 5000p worth of ships.

[evilcherry]

Evilcherry, Criptfiend, you both have your planetary upkeep wrong. And, Criptfiend, 2000p will not get your 5000p worth of ships.

Apologies, did not get the rule clearly
(and obviously that is the major amendment from mine...)

[Criptfeind]

Evilcherry, Criptfiend, you both have your planetary upkeep wrong. And, Criptfiend, 2000p will not get your 5000p worth of ships.

What choo talking about? I have 3k from last turn, and 5270*.45=2371.5 rounded up too 2372.

[Vanigo]

Evilcherry, Criptfiend, you both have your planetary upkeep wrong. And, Criptfiend, 2000p will not get your 5000p worth of ships.

What choo talking about? I have 3k from last turn, and 5270*.45=2371.5 rounded up too 2372.

Oh, you're right. I had it in my head that you were going up from 180 to 190, not down from 185 to 175. My mistake. As for the ship, maybe you should put the carried-over production in there somewhere to prevent confusion?

[Nirur Torir]

Vanigo? Neyvn?

[Vanigo]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

+2 Research
+2 Production
+2 Loyalty Recovery
+2 Population Growth

-2 Terraforming
-2 Large Structures

Ideal environment: 190


Production
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/* colony number (Size, Quality, Environment, Loyalty, Manufactories, Population):
   Production(p) = manned manufactories x 10 x quality% x loyalty% + Trade received from last turn. See my turn post - It should be the same as their t, slightly further down, from last turn.
   Taxation(c) = mpopulation x loyalty%
        Trade: t = 20% of current production as credits. This will change as more trade routes are added.
   Remember taxation is halved under blockade
                                 */
2 (10,100,198,100,5270,5270):
   p = 5270 * 10 * 1(quality) * 1(loyalty) * 1.2(racial special) = 63240p
   c = 5270 * 1(loyalty) = 5270c
        t = 0
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Consumption
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/* colony number:
   Ships: p+c = number of ships or part thereof the Ship designation
   Manufactories: p+c = #of manufactories (1 per 100p/c)
   Terraforming: p+c = % improvement (1% per 500p/c * planet size)
   Technology: p+c
   Loyalty: c = % loyalty (1% per mpopulation /10 c)
   Environment upkeep: c = (|Ideal_Environment - Current_Environment|) / 20 * population(in millions)
                              */
1:
   Ships = 0p
   Manufactories = 29000p = 29000 = 290 manufactories
   Terraforming = 12500p * 0.8(racial penalty) =  10000 = 2% improvement next turn
   Technology = 21740p * 1.2 = 26088
   Loyalty = 0c
   Environment Upkeep: c = (|198-190|) / 20 * 5270 = 2500c = 2108c /* Round to hurt yourself.
   Total = 63240p + 2108c
   
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Research
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While nothing had yet come of either of the M'lan's projects, hopes were high that further effort would yield a breakthrough. Meanwhile, another project, intended to improve the Ecclesia's industrial capacity, was begun. While it would not directly help research efforts, an improvement in overall production meant that a higher proportion could be assigned to scientific efforts.

13088p: faster engines
10000p: Production 1
3000p: Improved research
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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 6127c
Colonial Income: 5270c
Consumption: -2108c
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: -900c /* you must not hide this value
Interest: -0c (negative c / 20)
Balance next turn: 8389c
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Growth
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2 (10,100,198,100,5270,5270):
   Growth = 0.06 *5270 * 1 * (1 - ((|198 - 190|) / 100)) = 290
   Manufactory = 290
   Terraforming = 2
   Loyalty = 0
   (10,100,198,100,5560,5560)