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[Criptfeind]

Orange. I PMed you my environmental stuff.

[Neyvn]

Ok doing my turn now...
I completely forgot to do the Ideal Environment too. Gah how did I miss that!!!
Diceroll me a number please...

[Nirur Torir]

It's currently at 160. Do you want to keep that?

[Neyvn]

It's currently at 160. Do you want to keep that?

Actually yeah I will. I think that would reflect the Race...

Just quickly, in Cript's turn he has it reading [10000p = 13000/5000 CO Transport] Why is it 13000???

And remind me what it means in the Sample Turn of yours in the OP what the [p+c =] means again, Production + Credits right???

[Criptfeind]

That is 13/5 of a transport. So I get two transports and next turn when I make another one it is already 3/5 of the way built.


And yeah. That is  Production + Credits.

[Neyvn]

That is 13/5 of a transport. So I get two transports and next turn when I make another one it is already 3/5 of the way built.

But you only put in 10...

[Nirur Torir]

That would be the sort of mistake you'd have gotten money for pointing out.

[Criptfeind]

Whoops. That came about via population addition changing. So I made less production things and put the extra money in there. But I forgot to note it down.

[ggamer]

I call Dwarmin's empire.

Spoiler: SOD turn 1 (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

Spaceship HP +1
Spaceship Defense +1
Loyalty recovery +1
Trade and Selling production +1
Research +2

Population growth -2

80 environment

Movement
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(3,2)
   Fleet 1
      FF Escort 16/16
      FF Escort 16/16
      FF Escort 16/16
      Hold
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Production
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/* 31 (10, 1.00, 70, 1,00, 50,000, 5,000,000,000):
   Production(p) = 5,000 x 10 x 1.00 x 1.00 + 0 = 50,000p
   Taxation(c) = 5,000 x 1.00 = 5,000c
        Trade: 0
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Consumption
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31:
   Ships: 5,000p+0c = 5,000/5,000 CO Stowaway
   Manufactories: 10,000p+0c = 100 (1 per 100p/c)
   Terraforming: 0p+0c = 0% (1% per 500p/c * planet size)
   Technology: 35,000p+0c on Plasma GL
   Loyalty: 0c = 0% (1% per mpopulation /10 c)
   Environment upkeep: 0c = (|80 - 80|) / 20 * 50,000
                           
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Research
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At the University of weapons technology, talk has begun of the old weapons of war. Using the plasma harvested from the volatile atmosphere, the old order made small grenades attached to the standard rifle, that literally contained pure, unfiltered, plasma. The knesset has begun funding, and now research has begun to rediscover this old technology.
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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 0c
Colonial Income: 5,000c
Colonial workflow: 50,000p
Consumption: -0c
Workforce: -50,000p
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: -1,200c
Interest: -0c (negative c / 20)
Balance next turn: 3,800c
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Growth
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31 (10, 1.00, 70, 1,00, 50,000, 5,000,000,000):
   Growth = 5,000,000,000*0.04 = 200,000,000 + 5,000,000,000 = 5,200,000,000
   Manufactory = 100
   Terraforming = 0
   Loyalty = 0

This is made under two assumptions-

A- that my environment being 70 and not 80 was a typo, and
B- wtf is the .9 for.

[Neyvn]

I am just trying to work out where the Credits come into things for like Ship Building...

Edit::
Wait does that mean we can spend Credits on building things???

[Vanigo]

You can spend credits to buy extra production, one credit per production point. (Or more or less, if you've got a bonus or penalty to investment.)

[Neyvn]

Wait, I said I was Purple. But it looks like you have given me Yellow. Ahwell...
Basicly my plans were similar to Cript, but I will be bolding something I don't Quite understand fully...

Spoiler: The Zia'Zola (click to show/hide)

Racial Stats:

Population growth: +1
Land Defense: +1
Research: +2
Small crafts attack: +2
Land Attack: +2

Defensive structures: -2
Large structures: -2

160 environment

Movement
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(22,4)
Fleet 1
-FF Count 1 (12/12)
-FF Count 2 (12/12)
-FF Count 3 (12/12)
Hold

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Production
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57:
(Size-10, Quality-100, Environment-170, Loyalty-100, Manufactories-5000, Population-5,000,000,000):
Production(p) = 5000 * 10 * 1(quality) * 1(loyalty) * 1(racial special) = 50000p
Taxation(c) = 5000 * 1(loyalty) = 5000c
Trade: t = 0
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Consumption
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57:
Ships = 10000p = 10000/5000 CO Transport = 2x CO Transports
Manufactories = 20000p + 1300c = 213 Manufactories...
Terraforming = 5000c =% improvement (1% per 500p/c * planet size)
[My Maths might be off here but. 1% per 500c * PS with 5000c spent = [5000/500] = 10*10(PS) = 100 which then equals 100% right??? Ok I am confused. So after understanding this more so I will place correct amount that I want...]
Technology = 20000p
Loyalty = 0c
Environment Upkeep: c = (|Ideal_Environment [160] - Current_Environment [170]|) / 20 * population(in millions) [5000] = -2500 [Does this become a +- thing and thus means 2500c???]
Total = 50000p + 8800 c

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Research
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10000 into improving production.
Remaining 10000 PMed
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Trade Routes
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None

Treasury
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Last turn balance: 5000c
Colonial Income: 5000c
Consumption: -8800c
Trade income: 0c
Fleet Upkeep: -1200c
Interest: 0
Balance next turn: 0
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Growth
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43:
(Size::10, Quality::100, Environment::170, Loyalty::100, Manufactories::5000, Population::5,000,000,000)
Growth = Current pop*0.06=300000000 *.9 = 270000000
Manufactory = 214
Terraforming = 1
Loyalty = 0
(10,100,216,100,5270,5270000000)

[This section wasn't fully explained in the OP...]

[Criptfeind]

Alright. I will just list things as I see them.

1: To raise the Terraforming 'score' by one you must spend 500c for every size the planet is. Since we all start with a size ten planet, that means we have to spend 5000 for that planet.

2: Yeah the | | means you take the distance from zero. So |-2400| is the same as |2400| So yeah, 2500 is right I think.

3: Well, your pop growth is 5.5%, not six. So that needs fixing in the final part.

4: You spent the stuff to buy  213 Manufactories but then put 214 in the growth part.

5: You copied my turn a bit to closely, my  Environment is 216, yours would be 169.

[ggamer]

2: Yeah the | | means you take the distance from zero. So |-2400| is the same as |2400| So yeah, 2500 is right I think.

I believe the algebraic term is "Absolute Value"

[Nirur Torir]

With a +1 population growth, your standard rate is 5.5% per turn.

With the size 10 home planet, 5000c invested in terraforming would give an increase of one, in whichever direction you choose. With a size 5 planet, you'd need 2500p. With a size 1 planet, 500p.

Ignore the sign from environmental upkeep - It always costs money if it's not zero.

Here's what your growth should look like:

Growth
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43:
(Size::10, Quality::100, Environment::170, Loyalty::100, Manufactories::5,000, Population::5,000,000,000)
Growth = 5,000M * 0.055(Your base) * 0.9 (Environmental penalty. Ignores this-turn terraforming) = 247,500,000
Manufactory = 213
Terraforming = 1
Loyalty = 0
(10, 100, 169, 100, 5213, 5,247,500,000)
OR
(10, 100, 169, 100, 5213, 5,247.5M)

Keeping factories equal with population is probably more important than research.

Think you can handle staying in the game?