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[Criptfeind]

2500 is hardly ungodly, also I think you have to pay it anyway, changes take place at the end of your turn, costs in the middle.

[ggamer]

2500 is hardly ungodly, also I think you have to pay it anyway, changes take place at the end of your turn, costs in the middle.

It wasn't 2,500, it was 25,000.

[Criptfeind]

10/20=0.5

0.5*5000=2500

[ggamer]

d'oh

[Vanigo]

Also, you start with 5000c.

[ggamer]

*X2 FACEPALM COMBO*

[Nirur Torir]

Evilcherry:
Expanded Marine Transports researched: Increased capacity, decreased loyalty, 6 turn lander.

Vanigo:
+10% income this turn for helpfulness: +527 credits. (I'm not counting the program.)
Declassified naval orders: All ships remain stationed in orbit.

Neyvn:
+100 credits for improperly calculating ship upkeep costs.
Research completed: Production I. Production tech bonus set to + 10%.

Criptfeind:
Research completed: T1 Colonization.
   New ship module: Colony Pod - Equipped ship may carry colonists in cryo-sleep. Or possibly not - Space bugs might be cruel like that. Cannot be mounted on Corvettes.

Ggamer:
+300 credits for improperly calculating ship upkeep costs.
Environmental upkeep is calculated before terraforming. You lose 2500c from it turn 1, but no longer have to worry about it.
Treasury is only for credits, please keep production out of it. Production can never be stored: time travel is strictly forbidden! (Almost certainly impossible, as well.)
Treasury set to 6600 credits.

Spoiler: Known Techs (click to show/hide)

**Corvette Construction

**Engine tech II

**Basic Troop Transports - Standard capacity, 0.8 loyalty, 5 turn lander.
Expanded Marine Transports - 1.5x capacity, 0.7 loyalty, 6 turn lander. (evilcherry)

**Trade Routes II

Colonization I (Criptfeind)

Production I (Neyvn)

** Indicates technology known to all players.

===Alternative Sorting===
Evilcherry: Expanded Marine Transports
Neyvn: Production I
Criptfeind: T1 Colonization

Spoiler: Standard Ships (click to show/hide)

CO Transport - 5,000p - 2 Engines / 3 HP / 30,000 Troop Capacity at 80% loyalty, standard landing / This is a basic warp-capable ship, filled with marines at the cost of troop comfort and defenses. Required tech: None

FF Count - 15,000p - 10 Beam Atk / 10 Beam Def / 10 Missile Defense / 10 Kinetic Defense / 2 Engines / 15 HP / An old favorite due to their high reliability, and a remnant from a forgotten age. Many still exist, but the technology to build more has been lost to the sector. Required Tech: Frigate Construction, Beam II, Beam Defense II, Missile Defense II, Kinetic Defense II, Miniaturization II.

DD Trader - 30,000p - 2 Engines / 5HP / Trader - This is technically a destroyer sized vessel, able to be built even by colonial industry due to modular construction techniques not suitable for military use. The technology to build them has only barely been preserved. Required Tech: None.

[Criptfeind]

To be sure, I failed in pop growth?

[Vanigo]

To be sure, I failed in pop growth?

Hey, I didn't get anything, and I put quite a bit more in than you.

[Nirur Torir]

To be sure, I failed in pop growth?

Yes, all unlisted research is still in progress, but has been recorded. Blame it on the randomness.

[Criptfeind]

Also, just to be sure, I am not able to make a Colony ship at this time?

[Vanigo]

Hey, what does 5 turn lander/6 turn lander mean, anyway? And how much bigger are the expanded troop modules?

[Nirur Torir]

Also, just to be sure, I am not able to make a Colony ship at this time?

Correct. It's a stretch to imagine a ship hull able to carry even 1,000,000 colonists as only being able to carry 30,000 troops, at least with basic technology, and moving a single unit of population without a factory isn't really worth building a ship for.

Hey, what does 5 turn lander/6 turn lander mean, anyway? And how much bigger are the expanded troop modules?

N turns of combat before the lander is able to withdraw if its troops are losing. If the combat ends in three turns, the transport is destroyed. If it's a closer battle, the transport may be refilled and used again, likely winning the second time. Expanded troop modules are 1.5x the size. They're overall more effective then the "standard" transports with normal loyalty that haven't been researched yet, but they'll die faster, and thus should increase collateral damage.

Unofficial poll: Should marines deduct from planetary populations if at least 100,000 are loaded at any one time? If so, marine transports would be able to ferry colonists during peacetime.

[Vanigo]

It would make more sense that way, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra bookkeeping.

By the way, is research overflow wasted, or is it applied to the next tech in the line?

[Criptfeind]

It would make more sense that way, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra bookkeeping.

Basically this is how I feel about it.